1986 black Spree project
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Re: 1986 black Spree project
I will try that tomorrow just got my other working bystarter and put a new oring on it and put that on there still no start. It wants to start but it doesnt. it almost seems like its not getting gas but when it does its flooding. its * me off lol
1986 Spree/ Eve af16 swapped 65cc Prodigy vari 8g 9:1 Ruima gears
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
Re: 1986 black Spree project
well i cleaned the carb today, the inlet on the bowl that leads to the bystarter was completely stopped up so I figured that would fix her. No such luck same thing no start sooo I took the head and cylinder off and this is what I found, it looks bad and I think I need a new piston and cylinder. Any suggestions on a piston and cylinder I can run with stock pipe and stock carb then upgrade carb and pipe as I get the money?
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1986 Spree/ Eve af16 swapped 65cc Prodigy vari 8g 9:1 Ruima gears
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
Re: 1986 black Spree project
think i can get by with replacing the piston and just sanding the rough spots on this cylinder?
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1986 Spree/ Eve af16 swapped 65cc Prodigy vari 8g 9:1 Ruima gears
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
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Re: 1986 black Spree project
well it looks like some one ran it out of oil ??? that jacksas..
you said that your compression was 100 that should be good enuff to run ..the rings don't look like they have inn nick in them..the cylinder cant tell if its deep scratches or some left over piston on it ( did read something on here about getting aluminum out of the cylinder )???but here what i think if it was run out of oil you may have more damage then you can see right now like rod and wrist pin baring damage??? so if you get a new piston and stuff and the crank is bad it wont last long and you will just scrap out of those parts....
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you said that your compression was 100 that should be good enuff to run ..the rings don't look like they have inn nick in them..the cylinder cant tell if its deep scratches or some left over piston on it ( did read something on here about getting aluminum out of the cylinder )???but here what i think if it was run out of oil you may have more damage then you can see right now like rod and wrist pin baring damage??? so if you get a new piston and stuff and the crank is bad it wont last long and you will just scrap out of those parts....
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ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
Re: 1986 black Spree project
the connecting rod and crank appears to be fine, maybe the pin and bearing for the piston arent in great shape but new ones come with a bore kit. I am going to look into getting a big bore kit, maybe 65cc that way i dont have to change carbs or exhaust right away. I could have bought a new one for what I have put into this hahahha at least I have my faithful stock Spree to scoot around on while Double Vision is * me without any lube ![Razz :P](./images/smilies/icon_razz.gif)
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1986 Spree/ Eve af16 swapped 65cc Prodigy vari 8g 9:1 Ruima gears
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
Re: 1986 black Spree project
The correct answer is NO! The piston and rings are junk. The cylinder needs to have the aluminum removed (NO, not with sanding, with acid) the the cylinder need to be checked for for deep grooves. To check if you can catch you finger nail in any of the grooves, you have to bore and hone he cylinder.
http://hondaspree.net/wiki/index.php5?t ... ted_Piston
http://hondaspree.net/wiki/index.php5?t ... ted_Piston
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Re: 1986 black Spree project
What would I have to do in order to use this kit?
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1986 Spree/ Eve af16 swapped 65cc Prodigy vari 8g 9:1 Ruima gears
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
Re: 1986 black Spree project
I guess I will find out on my own, I made a best offer and I didnt think they would take it. got the 65cc kit for 55 bucks! plus 25 shipping of course
1986 Spree/ Eve af16 swapped 65cc Prodigy vari 8g 9:1 Ruima gears
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
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Re: 1986 black Spree project
Mystic wrote:I guess I will find out on my own, I made a best offer and I didnt think they would take it. got the 65cc kit for 55 bucks! plus 25 shipping of course
That is a decent kit for the price
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That kit with 8.4 gears v8 pipe and a 28mm carb got me to a top speed of 60mph.
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Re: 1986 black Spree project
Since it will be a week or so before I can do anything else with my swapped Spree I figured I would put all the fresh painted plastics with decals and my trunk on my stock Spree and sport that while I am scooting around. May ride it to the TN river tomorrow for the fireworks show
I still need to paint the front wheel cowl and the speedo cover but I can do that some other time, gonna see if some steel wool will take the top patina off the wheel cowl maybe I won't have to repaint if it makes it glossy and bright again.
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1986 Spree/ Eve af16 swapped 65cc Prodigy vari 8g 9:1 Ruima gears
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
Re: 1986 black Spree project
The sticker on the trunk says it all. He would do himself. Probably because that is the only way he gets done. ![Image](http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r206/Bear-45-70/Emoticons/nutkick.gif)
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'83 Aero 80 X 3
'84 Aero 80 X 3
'85 Aero 80
'84 Aero 125 X 2
'84 Aero 125
'84 Aero 125 X 2
'85 Aero 50
'85 Spree
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'83 Aero 80 X 3
'84 Aero 80 X 3
'85 Aero 80
'84 Aero 125 X 2
'84 Aero 125
'84 Aero 125 X 2
'85 Aero 50
'85 Spree
Re: 1986 black Spree project
Quite astute in your old age
I take it however I can get it but sometimes ya just gotta rub one out hahha aint no shame
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1986 Spree/ Eve af16 swapped 65cc Prodigy vari 8g 9:1 Ruima gears
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
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Re: 1986 black Spree project
can we get a close up of how you mounted your top case?
i noticed in the other pic its not just the stock rack w/ a mounting bracket on it.
i noticed in the other pic its not just the stock rack w/ a mounting bracket on it.
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Re: 1986 black Spree project
boy that looks good
now all you need is a motor thats works
when you get running can i barow it
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now all you need is a motor thats works
when you get running can i barow it
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handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
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Re: 1986 black Spree project
If you need a spree motor let me know I have one here in good condition 2000 miles.