New Guy
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Hey guys just joined the sight the other day since I found a good deal on a Spree and I went ahead and picked it up today. Its a 1986 model in black. Its in good shape and of course its missing the petcock cover and from what I have read that is common.
The guy I bought it from works for honda so he through in a carb rebuild kit since he thought it would need it its just the needle, a spring and some gaskets. But after bringing it home and adding gas the sucker fired right up.
The only thing wrong with it as of now is it shutters/shakes pretty bad from about 5 mph through 7mph the it smooths right out. I am thinking clutch plates or belt. I have not downloaded the manual yet but I will. If anyone can give me a hint on the possible shaking issues I would appreciate it and maybe if there a Napa part # for the belt or clutch plates tha would be great to. By the way the bike has 5,000 miles on it I guess its had a good life.
The guy I bought it from works for honda so he through in a carb rebuild kit since he thought it would need it its just the needle, a spring and some gaskets. But after bringing it home and adding gas the sucker fired right up.
The only thing wrong with it as of now is it shutters/shakes pretty bad from about 5 mph through 7mph the it smooths right out. I am thinking clutch plates or belt. I have not downloaded the manual yet but I will. If anyone can give me a hint on the possible shaking issues I would appreciate it and maybe if there a Napa part # for the belt or clutch plates tha would be great to. By the way the bike has 5,000 miles on it I guess its had a good life.
Re: New Guy
Shaking is probably associated with the condition of the belt.
The clutch may also have a role in the shaking complaint.
Those two items are easily inspected by removing the cover on the left side of the engine.
I can't give you NAPA numbers. Neither can NAPA...hahahaha.....
The clutch may also have a role in the shaking complaint.
Those two items are easily inspected by removing the cover on the left side of the engine.
I can't give you NAPA numbers. Neither can NAPA...hahahaha.....
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Re: New Guy
Greetings and welcome. The manual will give you the minimum specs on the belt - hopefully it is nothing more serious. You will find many posts on the subject of Spree belt replacements, the one I went with and see most often suggested is an Ax24 (cogged). It can be found at most industrial supply companies for under $10.00. It is not exactly the same dimensions as new stock, but works fine.
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Re: New Guy
Cool thanks for the answers guys. I will take a look at the belt next weekend and take a look for the cogged belt locally. I guess Napa is not a choice on this one
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Re: New Guy
Greetings:
Juddery, * take off usually means an out-of-round clutch bell. No "plates" like on a motorcycle but a sort of reverse-drum brake affair. It's easy to imagine an oval bell being * on take-off.
NAPA or even the Deepinnaharta Belt Doctor store has nothing like Honda's belts. OEM is about $25 through your dealer, and My dealer lists an Aftermarket belt for $17 that it turned out is the exact same belt as the Honda-branded one.
Juddery, * take off usually means an out-of-round clutch bell. No "plates" like on a motorcycle but a sort of reverse-drum brake affair. It's easy to imagine an oval bell being * on take-off.
NAPA or even the Deepinnaharta Belt Doctor store has nothing like Honda's belts. OEM is about $25 through your dealer, and My dealer lists an Aftermarket belt for $17 that it turned out is the exact same belt as the Honda-branded one.
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Re: New Guy
The correct term is "Centrifugal Clutch" like used on go-kart and old reel type lawn mowers.Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:
Juddery, * take off usually means an out-of-round clutch bell. No "plates" like on a motorcycle but a sort of reverse-drum brake affair. It's easy to imagine an oval bell being * on take-off.
NAPA or even the Deepinnaharta Belt Doctor store has nothing like Honda's belts. OEM is about $25 through your dealer, and My dealer lists an Aftermarket belt for $17 that it turned out is the exact same belt as the Honda-branded one.
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Re: New Guy
Wow how whould the clutch bell get out of round? I will see what the local dealer has as far as belts and see what the oem vs aftermarket belts they haveWheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:
Juddery, * take off usually means an out-of-round clutch bell. No "plates" like on a motorcycle but a sort of reverse-drum brake affair. It's easy to imagine an oval bell being * on take-off.
NAPA or even the Deepinnaharta Belt Doctor store has nothing like Honda's belts. OEM is about $25 through your dealer, and My dealer lists an Aftermarket belt for $17 that it turned out is the exact same belt as the Honda-branded one.
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Re: New Guy
Greetings:
The clutch bell gets hot during a protracted slippage event, then warps by uneven cooling under the pressure of the shoes. It happens pretty commonly actually, just like the old drum brakes. It may be possible to have it machined back to a smoother surface if there's enough metal to work with. Certainly it's cheaper to find a used one, or even a better-ventilated Aftermarket item. With high-output engines, most tuners run without the rear cover, or with an artfully carved one that admits plenty of cooling air.
The clutch bell gets hot during a protracted slippage event, then warps by uneven cooling under the pressure of the shoes. It happens pretty commonly actually, just like the old drum brakes. It may be possible to have it machined back to a smoother surface if there's enough metal to work with. Certainly it's cheaper to find a used one, or even a better-ventilated Aftermarket item. With high-output engines, most tuners run without the rear cover, or with an artfully carved one that admits plenty of cooling air.
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"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
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Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
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Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Re: New Guy
Cool I will try to download the service manual tonight. Once I pull the cover off is any oil going to come out or is it a dry clutch setup?
Re: New Guy
Dry.
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