Manual choke, do they exist??

[BananasHD]

Hi, all!! Im new to the fourms here as Im sure you may have noticed. Im in dire need of a Manual choke for an '84 Spree. It has the stock carb so obviously one to fit that carb, haha. Ive been looking for a solid 2 nights now and haven't found anything but a bunch of broken links, and out of commission websites and a few dead ends... Is there anyone who may have one they're not using or a reliable source that may have one? Is there a random honda foreman quad choke that may fit or something weird like that?? its killing me, i want to get this bad lad on the road, but i can barley start it in temps under 50* Im not looking for the auto choke.
Thanks in advance, Tony

[motormike]

No, Tony...sorry pal...it doesn't work that way.
The CHEAPEST way to reliably fix your cold-start issue is to retain the bystarter(auto-choke) intended to be there.
First thing to do is bench-test the bystarter to see if it is actually inoperable.
Aftermarket carburetors with manual chokes are costly and difficult to attach to a Spree motor, and tune...yadda.
You can find testing info here using the Search feature...

[jerz40]

Motormike is right, the auto-choke (bystarter) is really the only option you have. To be honest what I would do is probably get rid of the original bystarter and order a new one off eBay, they don't go for much $5-8 bucks is all. Sprees were never manufactured with an manual choke. Make sure the carb is nice and clean, and everything suppose to be like it should be, and with a new bystarter hopefully that will fix your problem. Good Luck!

[Meatball]

The bystarter works very well on these bikes when operating properly. However, without testing its impossible to definitively say that's your cold-starting issue. Only way to eliminate the bystarter is to replace the carb with one that doesn't have one. There currently is no known carb from any other bike, snowmobile, go-kart, etc that is a direct fit for the Spree motor. With custom fab work you can make ANYTHING "fit" since the possibilities are endless with any bike. Getting it to EVER run right with Frankenstein parts is another hurdle.

Your best bet is to test your bystarter. If it doesn't work, replace it. If you want to eliminate it anyways, replace the carb with an aftermarket one with a manual choke that is designed to fit a Spree motor. Cheap no-name "replacement" carbs for $20 on Ebay have been known to be junk and nothing but trouble. You can cheap out on SOME things but a carb is a component you want to be good quality.

[eclark5483]

If you do go aftermarket carb route, you can expand your options with one of these:

http://scooterswapshop.com/collections/ ... rb-adapter

This will allow you to add a Mikuni or Polini carb, which do have a manual choke. You would end up having to swap out that throttle cable as well though.

Best route for your situation, is just buy a new bystarter off eBay and go from there. Carb swaps can get a bit pricey.

[noiseguy]

Yes. You're looking for this: http://www.1977mopeds.com/PHVA-Flip-Cho ... p/1535.htm

For starters, not sure this will fit stock OEM Honda carb.

Second, you can't reach it with Spree sidepanels attached b/c of placement.

Strongly suggest you run down a new bystarter (which is what this part is called.)

[eclark5483]

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R4 ... =1&_sop=15

[motormike]

Yes. You're looking for this: http://www.1977mopeds.com/PHVA-Flip-Cho ... p/1535.htm

...very interesting. Almost worth the cost to experiment with.
But then, I don't see me ever needing this.

[BananasHD]

Thanks for all your guys replies I appreciate it. This is a very helpful fourm I must say! When I bought my spree the guy gave me some big Ole aftermarket car and it would make it bog at anything past 3/4 throttle. He bypassed the oil injection (ran premix) and blocked off the bystarter passageway with and penny, an o-ring, and the horseshoe clip. he gave me another bystarter and when I blew the top end up, I figured well I'm in this far may as well put the stock carb back on it and make ithe stock. Of course the bystarter doesn't fit lol. So I had to block off the passage on the stock carb. I know that's the issue because I have to pull intake boot off and choke it with my fingers and it'll start when cold. At 60 70┬░ it starts great. Thanks for the help guys!!

[noiseguy]

The only way to truly eliminate the bystarter is to fill it with wax... I've seen this done... would not advise, but it will plug up all passages.

Issue with what your guy did is that it creates an air leak. You go lean and blow top end.