Well alot of people have premixed in these scooters..some I'm sure who didn't have a working oil injector and had to premix who never had any problems that I'm aware of. I have added a little extra oil to the gas when I drilled the washer in the pipe out just because I was scared of messing it up since I'm going faster then before and never had a problem with doing this besides a little extra smoke at first. Now I don't. I just rely on the oil injectorDac wrote:hey fokes, i think i might have found my problem. who i fried my last bore kit.
i dont use 2 stroke injection oil. i just buy a container that says 2stroke. not injection. how bad is this? and should i trow away what i got and get all new injection oil?
[the dumb * at honda said it could cause it to fire before the plug sparks. it could pre-combust like Diesel motors. he had no proof to back it up thats just what he said. when i asked him if he cared to explain he said 'thats just what i heard.']
What Kind of engine oil do you use in your Moped?
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yeah i remember seeing this like this also but when i go to find then now i find nothing.
plus it seems every one i talk to about this ether says 'dont do that, i dont know why just dont' or 'i dont see what it could hurt'
even at honda power sports they all say something different.
plus it seems every one i talk to about this ether says 'dont do that, i dont know why just dont' or 'i dont see what it could hurt'
even at honda power sports they all say something different.
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I'm curious about all that too, I'm pre-mixing regular two stroke oil (what was in my moped when I got it) the blue stuff heavily, AND running my oiler. I open my throttle the slightest bit and it looks like I'm fogging for skeeters, but that Bosch plug is yet to foul out. I put 4 ounces of two stroke oil to a full tank of gas, plus my oiler. But my oiler has the same standard two stroke oil. How much does injector oil cost and can I get it at autozone?
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wait WHAT????
i dont blame you for wanting to not burn up your motor but man thats alot!
dude! even if your oiler didn't work your only spost to add like 2I put 4 ounces of two stroke oil to a full tank of gas, plus my oiler.
i dont blame you for wanting to not burn up your motor but man thats alot!
that works, when ever im working on my sundiro or geely and the bugs are getting me i just turn on my elite and rev it up a few times. most the bugs go awayI open my throttle the slightest bit and it looks like I'm fogging for skeeters,
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I went by my local honda dealer and they were out of gn2, so I stopped by my local scooter shop and they recommended Motul 710 synthetic.
I'm not sure how familiar they were with Hondas but anybody here have experience with the synthetics?
Do I really need to premix this? I thought that's what the injector was for?
I'm not sure how familiar they were with Hondas but anybody here have experience with the synthetics?
Do I really need to premix this? I thought that's what the injector was for?
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I used to use Silkolene Pro Scoot full synthetic in my scoots, but it costs and found out it wasnt premixing real well!
So I've switched to Castrol premix type 2t oil from pepboys, and at only $4/quart its much cheaper (compared to $13/qt) and premixes better!
I'm using it in all my heavily modded scooters btw.
So I've switched to Castrol premix type 2t oil from pepboys, and at only $4/quart its much cheaper (compared to $13/qt) and premixes better!
I'm using it in all my heavily modded scooters btw.
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When I first bought this scooter (40cc, 2 cycle, weights about 60lbs I think, top speed about 28-30mph for me)...
http://cubey.illiop.com/pics/displayima ... m=26&pos=0
.. I used Red Line 2-cycle racing oil (synthetic) as suggested by the salesman, No, he didn't sell it in his shop. In fact he gave me a bottle he had for it and told me where I could buy it (an auto parts store I know he had no stock in). It cost about $4 for a bottle but lasted a good while.
I used it until I moved back to Arkansas and I can't find it around here. I switched over to Quicksilver since it's supposed to be a high quality oil as well. But then again, I was having to premix. I don't know what kind of oil is in my Spree right now. I guess I'll leave whats in there and just get a new bottle of injector oil and add some to it. Eventually the existing oil will be diluted down to nothing by the better oil and I'll no longer have a "problem" with mysterious oil in it.
The salesman of the above scooter also told me to use premium gas. But someone here on the forum in another topic said he found no difference in gas octane levels so I guess I won't bother anymore. On that scooter I got a good 70mpg or more. I would often carry cargo in a backpack or on the running board so that would sometimes effect the mpg.
It used to get better but I think it needs some attention with adjustments as I seem to be having problems getting it right and it's using more gas than it should now. It has no odometer (and I used a barely working bicycle speedometer) so I can't really verify the MPG. I just know the tank holds 1 litre (1 gallon = 3.78 liters .. plus the 4oz oil mixed in) so one gallon of mix almost gives 4 full tanks. And I would ride it a good 15+ miles on a single tank of gas and have about 1/4 tank left over.
http://cubey.illiop.com/pics/displayima ... m=26&pos=0
.. I used Red Line 2-cycle racing oil (synthetic) as suggested by the salesman, No, he didn't sell it in his shop. In fact he gave me a bottle he had for it and told me where I could buy it (an auto parts store I know he had no stock in). It cost about $4 for a bottle but lasted a good while.
I used it until I moved back to Arkansas and I can't find it around here. I switched over to Quicksilver since it's supposed to be a high quality oil as well. But then again, I was having to premix. I don't know what kind of oil is in my Spree right now. I guess I'll leave whats in there and just get a new bottle of injector oil and add some to it. Eventually the existing oil will be diluted down to nothing by the better oil and I'll no longer have a "problem" with mysterious oil in it.
The salesman of the above scooter also told me to use premium gas. But someone here on the forum in another topic said he found no difference in gas octane levels so I guess I won't bother anymore. On that scooter I got a good 70mpg or more. I would often carry cargo in a backpack or on the running board so that would sometimes effect the mpg.
It used to get better but I think it needs some attention with adjustments as I seem to be having problems getting it right and it's using more gas than it should now. It has no odometer (and I used a barely working bicycle speedometer) so I can't really verify the MPG. I just know the tank holds 1 litre (1 gallon = 3.78 liters .. plus the 4oz oil mixed in) so one gallon of mix almost gives 4 full tanks. And I would ride it a good 15+ miles on a single tank of gas and have about 1/4 tank left over.
Guess on Hondas its a lot. Although, i don't know what the fuel tank capacity is either on the scooter being referenced. The ratio for the scooter above I have forgotten but as I recall by ounces, it took about 4 ounes to 1 gallon of gas. (25:1?) I have a document somewhere that has the specs on the above scooter if I were to look for it to verify it.Dac wrote:wait WHAT????dude! even if your oiler didn't work your only spost to add like 2I put 4 ounces of two stroke oil to a full tank of gas, plus my oiler.
i dont blame you for wanting to not burn up your motor but man thats alot!
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Others owned/rode/sold: '86 Helix trike, '07 Vino 125, '88 Elite 250
1984 Honda Spree - Bought May 30, 2008 with 810.8 miles on it. (Sold with ~1600mi)
Others owned/rode/sold: '86 Helix trike, '07 Vino 125, '88 Elite 250
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