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Re: Cargo Racks, Grab Bars
Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 1:40 am
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:
Uplifting as ever, 'Dog?
What's hard about BROWSE. ADD THE FILE, PLACE INLINE?
Mouse is cutting, bending, welding. Oh, and Sharing instead of criticizing. Do ya see the Hint I'm sending here?? Nobody's laughing at Mousewheels.as far as I can tell.
Re: Cargo Racks, Grab Bars
Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:33 am
by mousewheels
Mounting clamps
Pic from eliteguy shows Honda supplied "U" clamps for the lower mount. I looked around the hardware store and found none that would match the fork tube dia.
OEM Clamp:
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Here's 2 clamps to try. The OEM has a flat side to the outside. One set is following the OEM model. The other moves the rack mount closer to centered on the fork. This about completes the Gyro front rack. All that remains is to fit up and put a finish on the rack.
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Re: Cargo Racks, Grab Bars
Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:57 am
by mousewheels
-- Other Grab Bars --
maddog wrote:nice try but the rear grab bar mod has been done for about 15yrs, once again Hawaii beat ya to it. you can buy them from any local shop.
Please post pics you have on grab bars. HI has lots of hidden goodies, what do you have on cargo hauling?
Also please post links and price on grab bars, there's members who want them.
--- Grab Bar Pics/links
HI member iRiE S0ULJAH posted commercial grab bar pics:
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Here's a pic from z50r-blank, commercial grab bar mounted up on a cherry Elite
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Good read -
richdavison34 - grab bar fabrication thread. Link - click me
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Re: Cargo Racks, Grab Bars
Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 8:46 am
by deuce217
Sweet work!
Re: Cargo Racks, Grab Bars
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:54 pm
by bushpigwillie
By request here is my cargo basket addition. I don't know if I would call it fab. It's a basic milk crate. It was origanally mounted on a Bladez recreational scooter so I had split it down the back to mount closer to the pole. Since it was weakened, I reinforced it with wood.
I I bent the tabs on the Spree down to be a base for the crate to sit on.
I then used a bolt that matched the threads on the front tab on the headtube and ran the bolt thru the wood frame in the crate. It holds the crate nice and tight. The crate supports my dog just fine.
I also zip tied the speedo to the corner of the crate so I could watch my speed.
So, nothing fancy and very ghetto!
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Re: Cargo Racks, Grab Bars
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:31 am
by mousewheels
I then used a bolt that matched the threads on the front tab on the headtube and ran the bolt thru the wood frame in the crate. It holds the crate nice and tight. The crate supports my dog just fine.
That frame support is a good idea for side mounting. Can you get screws into the bottom mount? It would reduce top mount stress from bumps and twisting loads.
Re: Cargo Racks, Grab Bars
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:13 am
by bushpigwillie
mousewheels wrote:I then used a bolt that matched the threads on the front tab on the headtube and ran the bolt thru the wood frame in the crate. It holds the crate nice and tight. The crate supports my dog just fine.
That frame support is a good idea for side mounting. Can you get screws into the bottom mount? It would reduce top mount stress from bumps and twisting loads.
I'm sure I could come up with a way to use the bottom tabs as a mount. I am now using them more as a solid base for the crate to sit on. Ive also got a large amount of screws holding the crate to the wood frame so it isn't going anywhere.
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Re: Cargo Racks, Grab Bars
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:10 am
by maddog
I got the info from a co worker to post pics= super easy numb nuts, well you can't build what i create.
Re: Cargo Racks, Grab Bars
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:46 pm
by mousewheels
Grab bar made from OEM rack parts is completed. Everyone has a rack, with minimal work (or minor farm out) you can have a custom grab bar.
Design wise the grab bar is simpler looking vs the commercial version. Top rails are flat, and the rail to grab bar mounting does not create a big lump on the side. Mine is dead simple, come up with your grab bar design and post
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Commercial grab bar comparison:
Re: Cargo Racks, Grab Bars
Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 12:13 pm
by bushpigwillie
Nice and simple! I like it!
Re: Cargo Racks, Grab Bars
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:51 pm
by mousewheels
Nice and simple! I like it!
I can't agree more. I've been stripping vinyl from rusty old Honda baskets for restore, and thinking the whole time a milk crate will have no rust
Re: Cargo Racks, Grab Bars
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:22 am
by mousewheels
Honda Gyro front rack is now finished and bolted up for fitting. Again, thanks to eliteguy50 for loaning a rare rack for duplication effort.
An interesting part of the Gyro rack, is I found our
official Honda brochure link shows my earlier rack pics had the rack installed backwards
. So my rack has been installed to match Honda's pic. Yet, the rack is symmetrical enough to mount either way, so set it in the way that is most useful to *you*.
Learning from the build:
1) Bend radius where the rack drops to the fork mounts needs to be slightly larger, will update the dimensions shortly.
2) "U" clamps have interference at full steering travel. It's likely an issue of my own creation and assumptions as we do not have a clear view of the entire OEM clamp. I'll fix the issue and post the the Gyro thread. Please refer to pic 7 of the set. The pic also shows a loosely bolted up clamp for fitting pics only.
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Re: Cargo carry, Racks, Grab Bars
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:53 am
by mousewheels
-- Baskets --
Honda is still selling a rear basket. It is slightly different than the original rack, but close in size. Cost is around $30-35.
Part numbers: White - 08145-GN261, Black - 08145-GN271
New style is simplified and cost reduced. no "Honda' logo badge, no built in mount.
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We have a few baskets in need of repair/refinish. They show typical issues, rust, peeling, bent wires, bowed/out of square alignment and broken welds.
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Re: Cargo Racks, Grab Bars
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:31 am
by maddog
the bottom line is don't take credit for something that has been done 20 yrs ago, BTW if you have an aftermarket exhaust you don't need a grab bar or a center stand unless you like that rattle that will dig a hole in your exhast.
Re: Cargo Racks, Grab Bars
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 9:33 am
by deuce217
Dog,
I am starting to see your battle rythum. Meticulous traps, designed to get rises from the willing. Nice to have some contrast on the site. lol
I wish you would post some pics of your Aero, I heard it is pretty sweet. Barking only goes so far.