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Re: center spring saver

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:16 am
by patthesoundguy
ped wrote:hi guys. this is the one I have from Malossi.
has anyone seen real benefits from using it? I've never had binding problems.
I have one of those, got it last year. Installed it on either my aero 80 or my af18. I think it was my aero 80, and it really diddnt do much in that mild un-wild bone stock motor. Might work wonders in my af18 with the ripping it does with all of the crazy bottom end launching I do with it it has the heavy red malossi center spring in it. That little yellow thing is still sitting on my bench from a year ago ;-)

Re: center spring saver

Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 11:06 am
by DirtyE
I dont think it can hurt anything. Its $7. Why not? Thats cheap placebo!

Re: center spring saver

Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 2:44 pm
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:

As a friction damper, it may help to quell tangential vibration - back-and-forth buzz around the circle of the spring. Vibration is what fatigues metal more than the physical compression forces, so it may in fact be a "spring-saver". By its relatively low friction, it may keep the spring from winding up and unwinding as the cams do their little twisty thing. The ball-bearing variety I've used for years does the same thing, but the grease dampens the vibes. Couldn't hurt, and also raises the preload a hair, though I doubt it's enough to warrant changing the roller weight load.

Re: center spring saver

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 10:42 pm
by maddog
Or you can go super cheap and use construction washers and custom grind them :naughty:

Re: center spring saver

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 10:50 pm
by 1man8scoots
Only if you're poor and live in your mom's basement.

Re: center spring saver

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 2:30 am
by maddog
Had mine 20 yrs. ago, the construction washer is for all cheap people on this forum :surprise:

Re: center spring saver

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 5:45 am
by 1man8scoots
You're right about that.

Re: center spring saver

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 11:27 pm
by Rip_City_Spree
According to fancy drawing you get it goes on the clutch side. And yes this is one part I'm gonna keep a fresh one in there. Gonna pull mine and see how it's doing. I've got maybe 300+ miles on it.

Re: center spring saver

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 12:19 pm
by DirtyE
From the horses mouth

Re: center spring saver

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 1:47 pm
by 1man8scoots
That's a torsion controller, similar to a spring saver. The radial ball bearing supports are the ones that go under. Torsion controls and spring savers go on top. Spring savers don't do much.

Re: center spring saver

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 8:52 pm
by 1man8scoots
Less confusion more pictures. Photobucket.com is easy to use yet maddy can't figure it out.
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Genuine polini lower torque spring support is what we see here. This little beaut goes under the torque spring so it's not twisting against the cup.

Re: center spring saver

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 8:55 pm
by 1man8scoots
And here folks is commonly referred to as a a a a spring saver a say you. You put this darlin on top o the spring but under the clutching area.
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Re: center spring saver

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 9:00 pm
by 1man8scoots
Viola we have a completed full top to bottom polini 3g clutch set up with spring saver on TOP, also where torsion controls go, and spring support on BOTTOM.
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Re: center spring saver

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 9:05 pm
by 1man8scoots
Maddog please post your paper washer mod, I showed how a polini saver and support looks like in real life.
Go to page 2 to see the polini lower spring support and it's complex installation.

Re: center spring saver

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 10:34 pm
by Rip_City_Spree
Thanks 1man