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my only guess is that abs glue might be used to make methamphetamines or something
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Ziraya wrote:my only guess is that abs glue might be used to make methamphetamines or something
PVC cement also contains MEK
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alright, then let's toss it in with the montana law against sex with porcupines, dumb s*** that can't be explained
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Ziraya wrote:alright, then let's toss it in with the montana law against sex with porcupines, dumb s*** that can't be explained

Just porcupines? Who would want to f*** one of those? You would get quills stuck in your junk.
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Sodomy is illegal in Minnesota. So does that mean if a cop caught a guy and his wife at the wrong time they could get a butt sex ticket? I dont know but that would be funny, sodomy is kind of a vague term though because it can be a lot things by definition. BTW has anyone ever tried using one of those cheap ebay plastic welders before? Im thinking about getting one for fixing the cracks on my se50.
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WillyPhister wrote:Sodomy is illegal in Minnesota. So does that mean if a cop caught a guy and his wife at the wrong time they could get a butt sex ticket? I dont know but that would be funny, sodomy is kind of a vague term though because it can be a lot things by definition. BTW has anyone ever tried using one of those cheap ebay plastic welders before? Im thinking about getting one for fixing the cracks on my se50.
It happened in Texas, I believe. Police broke in for something else and when it turned out they couldn't find what they had a warrant for, the charged the couple with illegal sodomy charges.

I think the first method sounds really good for repairs. My only question is how do you form pieces that are completely missing? Your pictures look really good, do you just do that freehand? Or could you make a kind of mold on one side and then just move it and cement it to the damaged side? I guess it wouldn't line up that way though...

I need to do this to repair lots of pieces on my Aero50, but I'm not sure what the pieces that are broken/missing are supposed to look like.
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I never had much luck trying to make a mold to created the pieces. Fist of all, if you have a section missing, without access to an original, you only have maybe the part from the opposite side of the bike to go by, and thats a mirror image. In the end, I purchased ABS sheet. You can use a hot air gun or hair dryer to heat it enough to go soft and shape it a little at a time. Cement that in place, then use the ABS cement to build up any imperfections.

Best way though is to use 2 of the same part (if you can pick up a damaged one cheap) that are broken in different areas then cut and splice to make a good whole piece.

Clive.

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WillyPhister wrote:BTW has anyone ever tried using one of those cheap ebay plastic welders before? Im thinking about getting one for fixing the cracks
Don't let the Minenesota cops catch you butt welding any cracks :lol:
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Hey clivester as that my bike that u used for your avatar :wink:
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monkeywrench wrote:Hey clivester as that my bike that u used for your avatar :wink:
Darn it. That's why it came without a title! :lol:

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Just a note to fellow Michiganders: You can use "universal" plumbing cement (available in most stores right alongside the pvc and cpvc cement) to do body repairs with. I had some random orientation glass mat sitting around and thought that I'd try that too. Both work great together! I found that scraping away the paint was a lot faster and more efficient than sanding. On serious cracks, I taped the opposite side together with packing tape, coated the area with cement, laid the glass down and saturated it. Lots of glass stands come up and it's a bit messy, but I'll only be using this cement for this type of work. Three coats of cement, each a day apart, are stiffer than the surrounding plastic. I've also used the green extruded wall anchors to replace missing sprues on the front panel. I reinforce the sides with some scraps of glass mat and a couple of layers of cement. They're holding well so far.
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I'm going to try using this ABS cement method to fix my cracks.

What do you recommend for smoothing out scratches and scuffs? standard bondo?

Also, what grade of sandpaper do you use?
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Plastex worked better for me when creating new tabs.
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LocoParaHonda wrote:I'm going to try using this ABS cement method to fix my cracks.

What do you recommend for smoothing out scratches and scuffs? standard bondo?

Also, what grade of sandpaper do you use?
I wouldn't use bondo - it tends to flake off flexible pieces. You can build up layers of ABS cement. Brush on a small amount, wait ~30 min, then another layer, etc. Allow several days to cure if you can. Smooth down initially with 200 grit, then 320 grit. Use a a couple of coats of sanding primer, it will fill quite a few imperfections if sanded down level between coats. You don't need to use it on the entire panel - just feather onto the areas that you've fixed. Use 600 grit for final sanding of primer before color coat. Do all your sanding with water to prevent the wet-or-dry from clogging.
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Clivester wrote:
LocoParaHonda wrote:I'm going to try using this ABS cement method to fix my cracks.

What do you recommend for smoothing out scratches and scuffs? standard bondo?

Also, what grade of sandpaper do you use?
I wouldn't use bondo - it tends to flake off flexible pieces. You can build up layers of ABS cement. Brush on a small amount, wait ~30 min, then another layer, etc. Allow several days to cure if you can. Smooth down initially with 200 grit, then 320 grit. Use a a couple of coats of sanding primer, it will fill quite a few imperfections if sanded down level between coats. You don't need to use it on the entire panel - just feather onto the areas that you've fixed. Use 600 grit for final sanding of primer before color coat. Do all your sanding with water to prevent the wet-or-dry from clogging.
Clivester is right. A buddy of mine used bondo and it cracked the first time he took his panels off because of the flex.
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adark248 wrote:
WillyPhister wrote:Sodomy is illegal in Minnesota. So does that mean if a cop caught a guy and his wife at the wrong time they could get a butt sex ticket? I dont know but that would be funny, sodomy is kind of a vague term though because it can be a lot things by definition. BTW has anyone ever tried using one of those cheap ebay plastic welders before? Im thinking about getting one for fixing the cracks on my se50.
It happened in Texas, I believe. Police broke in for something else and when it turned out they couldn't find what they had a warrant for, the charged the couple with illegal sodomy charges.
i would LOVE to see the legal definition of sodomy, i read somewhere anything but missionary position is illegal in FL :roll:
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