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protection

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:55 pm
by turtle13
So with some recent development of the criminal persuasion here in my neck of the woods in KC i am upping my level of all the time personal protection to a knife of larger size and one that opens quicker. Most scooterists or fixed gear riders that i know either carry brass knuckles or a knife. It got me wondering, does any one else carry protection with them (especially while scooting), if so what do you carry?
until i upgrade, this is what i carry.
CRKT M16-01KZ
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Re: protection

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:31 pm
by eliteguy50
turtle13 wrote:It got me wondering, does any one else carry protection with them (especially while scooting), if so what do you carry?
Not for protection, but because I like to be prepared, I always carry my Charge XTi and a mini maglite. This is the same reason that I keep a Buck Knives 119 under the seat of my truck, just a good $40 knife for random use.
turtle13 wrote:CRKT M16-01KZ
I used to carry the Gerber Evo (partially serrated), a lot like that CRKT. It is a great everyday knife. Unless you are really handy with that, I don't think it will do much. :imo: Most theives probably carry something that can overcome a 3" blade if they are to be considered a real threat.

Re: protection

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:16 am
by fightingplankton
having studied bo-jitsu for 2 years...i really dont like knives/guns that sort of thing.
however, for repair purposes, i do have a long screwdriver under the seat(doesnt help much since i need the key to get it in a hurry)
honestly non-lethal martial arts should be a first option for self-defense.

Re: protection

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:44 pm
by elitedio
Handguns and knives, as many as I can carry.

If you are in Missouri or Kansas you should consider a concealed permit. No sense in waiting until a bad guy is within knife distance.

Re: protection

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:29 pm
by drizzle
the 'ol steel toe dr. martens are all I really need.

Re: protection

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:59 pm
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:

My favorite tee-shirt transfer, worn on the back:

Honk if you've never seen a gun fired from a moving Harley!

Tay-Ax-Iss has issued concealed-carry permits since the early 90s. People have seemed more polite since then.

Re: protection

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:52 pm
by turtle13
elitedio wrote:Handguns and knives, as many as I can carry.

If you are in Missouri or Kansas you should consider a concealed permit. No sense in waiting until a bad guy is within knife distance.
funny you should say that. i am trying to line up a class here as soon as possible to beat the possible change in legislation making it much harder to get one. not that i would ever use it, but it is nice to know that legally i can...
KC is not that high of crime rate, but with some recent reoccurring criminal act keeps happening in my neck of the woods (brookside/waldo area), i can honestly say that my shot gun is out of the safe, in case a certain individual comes knocking on my door again... it has scared my fiance' and i a little, and made me a little more edgy and sensitive of my surroundings, hence now carrying my knife at all times. Normally my knife is mainly only kept on me when riding.

Re: protection

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:33 pm
by elitedio
I am not sure how it would work on a motorcycle but if you are in your car in Missouri, you don't need a permit to carry while in your car.

Around here in NEMo, the biggest problem is Meth. Those idiots can be zombies. Tonight the guns came out when the dogs cornered an opossum. 9mm hollow points to the head made him play opossum forever.

Just read where a man went into a farm store with an AR in Illinois. No one there had a weapon as it is against the law. He ran people ragged, they were at his mercy. Luckily he did not kill anyone.

I wouldn't disagree with anyone knowing hand to hand combat but I am almost 60 and and my options are limited.

Re: protection

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:25 pm
by eliteguy50
Wheelman-111 wrote:Tay-Ax-Iss has issued concealed-carry permits since the early 90s. People have seemed more polite since then.
Oh, so that is why...I was on the job with a co-worker in Texas once and a .44 was in the glove box when I looked for a map (company car) I gave her a look (as her trainer) she told me it was for armadillos.
elitedio wrote:I wouldn't disagree with anyone knowing hand to hand combat but I am almost 60 and and my options are limited.
Very true, but don't forget about the limited range.

You could always try this method.

Re: protection

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:36 am
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:

Quoth the very Senior EliteDio:
I wouldn't disagree with anyone knowing hand to hand combat but I am almost 60 and and my options are limited.
I'm close to your age and fondly remember something The Bear posted once; something to the effect of:
It would be unwise to pick a fight with an old guy. If he's too tired to fight you, he might just kill you...
Fortunately, despite my Rampant Scooter-Straddling Geekiness, I have not been in that situation lately, but I keep that philosophy in mind if I'm ever confronted.

Re: protection

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:16 pm
by Lunytune
drizzle wrote:the 'ol steel toe dr. martens are all I really need.
I'm gettin too old for that stuff. Got a 45 and CCW. I don't carry it around our small town but when I go to the city.

Re: protection

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:58 am
by Bear45-70
If I knew ahead of time when and where I would need my gun, I just wouldnÔÇÖt go there, then. But I canÔÇÖt and donÔÇÖt, so I always carry.

Either this
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or this.
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If I have to use a knife I have done something very, very wrong.

Re: protection

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:14 pm
by Fishman43
The only protection I cary with me is:

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But then again I live in a small east coast college town where my biggest worry is some dumb 20-something not watching where their driving.

Re: protection

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 3:49 pm
by Lunytune
Fishman43 wrote:But then again I live in a small east coast college town where my biggest worry is some dumb 20-something not watching where their driving.
Yeah. Must admit, something wrong about a guy worried about needing a gun or knife to ward off danger when the greatest danger is riding a two wheel scooter, max weight 150 plus rider, in amongst 4 wheel vehicles ranging from 3000 to 80,000 lb and driven by idiots who would say, "I didn't see him". So now can I pull my 45 and shoot the driver. :coolcruise:

Re: protection

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 4:22 pm
by eliteguy50
Lunytune wrote:max weight 150 plus rider,
Not on the new ones :( That is my favorite part of riding a spree, you can pull the nose off the ground at any speed and jump a curb or flee from a Range Rover...whatever you want to call it.
Fishman43 wrote:...my biggest worry is some dumb 20-something not watching where their driving.
We had a problem with some dumb twenty-something (21) not watching his drinking and beating someone to death...That helmet probably would help in that situation too.