1985 honda spree wont start! please help

[KillinSpree]

I think everyone gets the point!

[tazland001]

Well on a spree the compression for a running engine is 90 min and around 120 max for a stock application. Test one for yourself and see. Trust me I am right on this one.

Taz

[Bear45-70]

Whats your compression reading? 120psi MINIMUM. I learned this the hard way an got an earfull from the one an only BEAR! Anything less and you need to pull off the cylinder to see whats causing the low compression issue.

Bear said 114 minimum.

Actually even at 90 PSI the engine will still run, just a little slower on the top end. It won't even start once you get below 70 PSI.

[tazland001]

yahh but they are to start and hard to idle at 85 to 90. I guess this kid prob wont even do a compression check anyways.



Taz

[Bear45-70]

yahh but they are to start and hard to idle at 85 to 90. I guess this kid prob wont even do a compression check anyways.



Taz

true, but you can start them and they will run.

[andythespreeowner]

ok i checked compression and it was at 120 which should make it so it starts up alteast!!!!! but still nothing!!
any ideas?
its getting spark!!!
might it have something to do with the auto-bi-starter???

[Bear45-70]

Do you actually have gas in the carb? If you do is it getting thru the carb into the intake system? Spark? Does it just arc the plug gap or will it jump a 1/2" gap. Jumping a .030" plug gap is easy but will not run an engine.

[andythespreeowner]

yeah gas is getting into the carb and the carb is very clean so maybe its a reed?? and yes it is getting a good amount of spark

[Bear45-70]

yeah gas is getting into the carb and the carb is very clean so maybe its a reed?? and yes it is getting a good amount of spark

Just because you think the carb is clean means nothing (* pretty on the outside means nothing). If the idle circuit and the fuel feed to the bystarter are plugged (both extremely small passages that normal clean will never clear), you engine will never start. Have you tried manual choking or manually priming to start? If that works you have a plugged idle and probably a plugged bystarter circuit.

[martynkim]

yeah gas is getting into the carb and the carb is very clean so maybe its a reed?? and yes it is getting a good amount of spark

Just because you think the carb is clean means nothing (* pretty on the outside means nothing). If the idle circuit and the fuel feed to the bystarter are plugged (both extremely small passages that normal clean will never clear), you engine will never start. Have you tried manual choking or manually priming to start? If that works you have a plugged idle and probably a plugged bystarter circuit.

I agree with Bear not to mention Air filter what are you running? or are you?

[wood10214]

I did had problem to start mine also, first time was the carb (I thought it was clean, but was NOT), second time was the air filter box (the air box just doesn't close all the way), the Honda is very sensitive.
Clean the carb and check the air filter.

[andythespreeowner]

i dont have a air filter but i stuck a peice of foam were the air filter should be in the air filter box and i feel like that would be good enough to start... i also took the carb completely apart and the float, the bowl, and all the jets seemed pretty clean (i then put it together correctly again)

[andythespreeowner]

by the way thanks for helping me out!!!!
i dont know what i would do without this site

[KillinSpree]

Are you giving up now?

[andythespreeowner]

no at first i was going to but now that i think about it i could fix it even if it takes me a month
because i really like honda sprees and other honda scooters so its worth it and i think im gunna completely restore it and make it nice