sa50pr

sa50pr · Post by **sa50pr** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:38 am

i bought a new to me honda sa50pr today for 250 after i let a friend ride my 87 se50p that i replaced the rings and some other stuff in when i didn't have a airfilter or cooling shrouds he rode it wot for around 45 sec straight it didn't end well but on to my new scoot is it restricted what can i do if so and my speedo doesn't go to zero it stops in the middle of the guage but goes up from there when riding? how could i fix this and was 250 a deal for the sa50

mousewheels · Post by **mousewheels** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:15 pm

Hi and Welcome,
$250 is a great deal in my book

Speedometer likely has an internal problem. If you like the adventure of a teardown to remove the speedo, then dissassembly to get at the internals, you may be able to fix it. Otherwise - swap in a speedometer from another scooter.

Scroll to "Eddy Current" in the following link, it's how the Honda speedometer works. There's not a lot of torque to drive the needle, might just need to free up a bind, or even just an internal spider web or such <grin> (actually, I think they are fairly dust proof, anyway, see what you've got and report back..)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedometer

dun rite · Post by **dun rite** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:04 am

You don't say what year. the below is for 1994 & up. not sure if it's the same for older ones

If it is a sa50p yes it's restricted. there will be a washer in the exhaust pipe next to where it bolts to the engine. Needs to be ground or drilled out. Then remove the variator and remove the backing plate that is held on with 3 screws and put it in a box with the screws and metal shavings from exhaust and put them on a shelf. If you do this keep in mind that you will need to use a larger size main jet in the carburetor. I believe it needs to be a #78. The restricted model used a #68.

look at the data sticker on your frame, it will tell you the year and if it's a sa50p or not. be sure to keep a proper OEM clean air filter in place. good luck

sa50pr · Post by **sa50pr** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:16 am

my bad the sticker on the bottom of the frame says its a 94 and under the seat is where it said sa50pr on a white sticker and the oem airfilter and everything to the motor is there i was talking about my older elite didn't have a filter on it but its just sittin in my garage now as it needs new piston cylinder and head.

Bear45-70 · Post by **Bear45-70** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:24 am

sa50pr wrote:..............................i was talking about my older elite didn't have a filter on it but its just sittin in my garage now as it needs new piston cylinder and head.

The reason your Elite has a blown top end is you ran it WITHOUT the air filter.

One question, just exactly what is an SA50PR.

sa50pr · Post by **sa50pr** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:28 am

bear i know that i let my buddy ride it and i didnt tell him bot to go wot and i know know the result of that thats why i got the new scoot and i was wonderin the same thing i just seen about sa50 and sa50p but the sticker under my seat says sa50pr

dun rite · Post by **dun rite** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:35 am

on the frame sticker, right before the year but in smaller letters. lower left corner I think it should say what it is. SA50P or or just SA50. not sure about the under seat one.

sa50pr · Post by **sa50pr** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:42 am

i went out and looked frame sticker says sa50p on it where you said to look

dun rite · Post by **dun rite** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:51 am

ok, it's restricted model. after doing exhaust it is a good idea to use a new exhaust gasket. Sometimes the mods (unrestrictions) have been done by previous owners, but not completely. they might unrestrict the exhaust but no up jet the carb. good idea to check it all out if your going to do it.

sa50pr · Post by **sa50pr** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:54 am

i did notice that on the muffler there are 3 weld marks that look like mabey the po did its one on the back above the outlet and 2 on the side??

dun rite · Post by **dun rite** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:16 pm

If you do the derestriction you will also need to make sure to hold the oil pump lever wide open and add a 70:1 or 100:1 premix to the tank.

sa50pr · Post by **sa50pr** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:57 pm

if i removed the all the restrictions and opened up the airbox what size jet should i use i have a 85 already but should i get a smaller/larger one instead?

dun rite · Post by **dun rite** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:11 pm

start with the 85 then do a plug chop to see where your at:

http://hondaspree.net/wiki/index.php5?t ... Plug_Chops

read the entire thing.

sa50pr · Post by **sa50pr** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:13 pm

will do as soon as i get an impact wrench and some new sparkplugs and thank you for your help

Bear45-70 · Post by **Bear45-70** » Wed Jul 27, 2011 12:05 am

sa50pr wrote:will do as soon as i get an impact wrench and some new sparkplugs and thank you for your help

Why do you need and impact wrench for your spark plugs?

Honda Spree and Elite 50 Forums

sa50pr

sa50pr

Re: sa50pr

Re: sa50pr

Re: sa50pr

Re: sa50pr

Re: sa50pr

Re: sa50pr

Re: sa50pr

Re: sa50pr

Re: sa50pr

Re: sa50pr

Re: sa50pr

Re: sa50pr

Re: sa50pr

Re: sa50pr