Honda Elite Log & Costs
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Honda Elite Log & Costs
I'm going to keep a log on this forum about my scooter and all of it's mods. I bought the bike thinking it'd only need a CDI, but turns out the head was destroyed so my adventure began there. I purchased a 75cc Big Bore kit from eBay and a bunch of swag from VT Cycles.
Maybe this will help some noobs get an idea of what to buy and how much they should expect to pay for parts. Also what problems they should expect to encounter as I will most definitely face some problems as I go through with this. Mind you I have no prior mechanical knowledge other than the basics of how a 2-stroke works, so I myself am a noob. Each step will give an approximate time to complete the project in parenthesis if you \happen to have all of the tools and have the perfect working conditions (i.e. no gorilla glue used as a gasket).
Removing Restrictor Plate (10 mins)
Removing the restrictor plate was fairly easy the only problem was getting to it by removing the main bolt attached to the front pulley.
Installing [7.5:1] Gears (20 mins)
I installed the gears for my scooter. It should have took about 10 minutes since I all ready had the housing and such taken off, but I ran into a few problems. I unscrewed all of the bolts for the gear casing, but had the hardest time breaking the seal to get to the gears. It took me about 30 minutes of hitting it with a mallet and prying at it with a screwdriver.
Once I removed the casing the gasket was in great condition surprisingly. The smaller gear fell right off of the shaft, the bigger gear wouldn't come off so I had to get it pressed off. Luckily I have a friend who has a friend who works at an airport hangar who happened to have a 12 ton press.
The guy actually applied all 12 tons (24,000 lbs) of force to it and it wouldn't budge until we tried it about 4 times and finally the shaft came out. Pressing the new gear on was simple though.
Putting everything back together was fine. I wasn't quite sure where to put the oil for the gears so I filled it through the drain hole and plugged it with the oil plug.
Installing Intake, Carb & Throttle Cable (25 mins)
Intake and carb was a matter of just bolting it on. The throttle cable on the other hand was a pain in the * as the lever itself was nearly impossible to get the cable and enclosure back together and even fitting the throttle cable in the spring within the carb.
I had a problem starting the engine after installing the bore kit, but realized it was because I needed to adjust the air screw.
Installing Bore Kit (20 mins)
Installing the Bore Kit was fairly easy. The hardest part was probably getting the rings to fit on the piston and in the cylinder and getting the rod to go through the piston. Believe it or not using pliers it wasn't too hard to get the clips in.
Putting the exhaust on was a matter of just bolting it on.
Surprisingly enough the fan case fits around the 75cc head.
Parts List
* 28mm OKO Carb
* Intake Manifold
* 7.5:1 Gears
* V8 Exhaust Pipe
* KRS 75cc Big Bore Kit
Costs
$350.00 - 1994 Honda Elite SA50P
$130.14 - CDI
$22.50 - Split Throttle Cable
$370.00 - Carb / Intake / Gears / Exhaust
$144.99 - KRS 75CC
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$1017.63
WARNING
Don't be retarded like me and run the stock oil injector when breaking in the engine. Use a 50:1 solution in the tank, haha...
Maybe this will help some noobs get an idea of what to buy and how much they should expect to pay for parts. Also what problems they should expect to encounter as I will most definitely face some problems as I go through with this. Mind you I have no prior mechanical knowledge other than the basics of how a 2-stroke works, so I myself am a noob. Each step will give an approximate time to complete the project in parenthesis if you \happen to have all of the tools and have the perfect working conditions (i.e. no gorilla glue used as a gasket).
Removing Restrictor Plate (10 mins)
Removing the restrictor plate was fairly easy the only problem was getting to it by removing the main bolt attached to the front pulley.
Installing [7.5:1] Gears (20 mins)
I installed the gears for my scooter. It should have took about 10 minutes since I all ready had the housing and such taken off, but I ran into a few problems. I unscrewed all of the bolts for the gear casing, but had the hardest time breaking the seal to get to the gears. It took me about 30 minutes of hitting it with a mallet and prying at it with a screwdriver.
Once I removed the casing the gasket was in great condition surprisingly. The smaller gear fell right off of the shaft, the bigger gear wouldn't come off so I had to get it pressed off. Luckily I have a friend who has a friend who works at an airport hangar who happened to have a 12 ton press.
The guy actually applied all 12 tons (24,000 lbs) of force to it and it wouldn't budge until we tried it about 4 times and finally the shaft came out. Pressing the new gear on was simple though.
Putting everything back together was fine. I wasn't quite sure where to put the oil for the gears so I filled it through the drain hole and plugged it with the oil plug.
Installing Intake, Carb & Throttle Cable (25 mins)
Intake and carb was a matter of just bolting it on. The throttle cable on the other hand was a pain in the * as the lever itself was nearly impossible to get the cable and enclosure back together and even fitting the throttle cable in the spring within the carb.
I had a problem starting the engine after installing the bore kit, but realized it was because I needed to adjust the air screw.
Installing Bore Kit (20 mins)
Installing the Bore Kit was fairly easy. The hardest part was probably getting the rings to fit on the piston and in the cylinder and getting the rod to go through the piston. Believe it or not using pliers it wasn't too hard to get the clips in.
Putting the exhaust on was a matter of just bolting it on.
Surprisingly enough the fan case fits around the 75cc head.
Parts List
* 28mm OKO Carb
* Intake Manifold
* 7.5:1 Gears
* V8 Exhaust Pipe
* KRS 75cc Big Bore Kit
Costs
$350.00 - 1994 Honda Elite SA50P
$130.14 - CDI
$22.50 - Split Throttle Cable
$370.00 - Carb / Intake / Gears / Exhaust
$144.99 - KRS 75CC
================================
$1017.63
WARNING
Don't be retarded like me and run the stock oil injector when breaking in the engine. Use a 50:1 solution in the tank, haha...
Last edited by nparks on Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:25 pm, edited 7 times in total.
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- burnt_toast
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Yep. This is roughly my tally so far:
$500 for Spree
$80 in gas to go get it from Dallas
$37 battery
$13 carb gasket set
$15 air screw+spring (Hopefully will be getting that Tuesday. Until then, no riding. )
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Total so far: $645'
Not counting consumables such as oil and a spark plug.
$500 for Spree
$80 in gas to go get it from Dallas
$37 battery
$13 carb gasket set
$15 air screw+spring (Hopefully will be getting that Tuesday. Until then, no riding. )
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Total so far: $645'
Not counting consumables such as oil and a spark plug.
1985 Honda Gyro S (project bike, work in progress!)
1984 Honda Spree - Bought May 30, 2008 with 810.8 miles on it. (Sold with ~1600mi)
Others owned/rode/sold: '86 Helix trike, '07 Vino 125, '88 Elite 250
1984 Honda Spree - Bought May 30, 2008 with 810.8 miles on it. (Sold with ~1600mi)
Others owned/rode/sold: '86 Helix trike, '07 Vino 125, '88 Elite 250
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you got to think about it like this though, you will have a very nice elite.
Dont think about it like its an old beater, compare it to buying a new honda or chines crap. You payed less, you are faster, and your bike will hold its value forever.
Dont think about it like its an old beater, compare it to buying a new honda or chines crap. You payed less, you are faster, and your bike will hold its value forever.
"Its not what you ride, its that you ride"
1996--------Honda Elite S-
1991--------Tomos Targa-
And a Bunch of other bikes.
1996--------Honda Elite S-
1991--------Tomos Targa-
And a Bunch of other bikes.
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Just curious..I'd rather wire it open because I'm cheap hahaburnt_toast wrote:why do you need one? I have one stock on FS, lmk..Elite1998 wrote:can you get split throttle cables from honda or do you have to go through somewhere else like ebay or vt cycles?
Honda Elite SA50-S
Stock motor, 9:1 gears, Kelli High speed pulley=a top speed of ?? Maxed the speedo out if that counts..average 45 mph
average 85 mpg
Stock motor, 9:1 gears, Kelli High speed pulley=a top speed of ?? Maxed the speedo out if that counts..average 45 mph
average 85 mpg
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