Bolt On Spree-Dio swap Shock Mount...Proposed Design...
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Bolt On Spree-Dio swap Shock Mount...Proposed Design...
I'm attaching some rough drawings of my proposed design for a bolt on shock mount for those looking to do motor swaps on your sprees.
Let me know what you think of this design....drawbacks, problems, suggestions.
Once I get a design finalized, I'll be able to make these very easily.
I don't own a spree myself, so there are a couple of measurements I'm unsure about. I don't know how wide the frame is at the site for the shock mount, and I don't know the extent of the curvature of the bottom frame half.
The other questions I'm curious about are proposed on the drawings themselves.
Thanks!
Let me know what you think of this design....drawbacks, problems, suggestions.
Once I get a design finalized, I'll be able to make these very easily.
I don't own a spree myself, so there are a couple of measurements I'm unsure about. I don't know how wide the frame is at the site for the shock mount, and I don't know the extent of the curvature of the bottom frame half.
The other questions I'm curious about are proposed on the drawings themselves.
Thanks!
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Re: Bolt On Spree-Dio swap Shock Mount...Proposed Design...
I love the idea of a bolt on shock mount but how does this connect to the frame?
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-V8 Typhoon Exhaust
-21mm OKO & CT Mani
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-72cc Polini Corsa
-V8 Typhoon Exhaust
-21mm OKO & CT Mani
-ZX Trans 1k Contra
-8.44:1 Gears
-Polini 2 Shoe Clutch
-Koso Vented Clutch Bell
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Re: Bolt On Spree-Dio swap Shock Mount...Proposed Design...
PM my with a solid list of measurements you need. im currently tearing down my spree. And noise guy i think made on adapter and it was just a wishbone type thing about 3 in long the attached to the bottom of the shock and the shock munt on the trans.
86 spree
sb 50 intake and reeds
3.00x10 rear tire
waxed
99Polaris indy 700
harliquim paint
2" bar riser
lefty throttle
ice scratchers
SLP tri keel skis
ported
high compression head
chrome low windshield
mountain bar
Xtra-10
I ALWAYS KEEP ONE ROLLED
sb 50 intake and reeds
3.00x10 rear tire
waxed
99Polaris indy 700
harliquim paint
2" bar riser
lefty throttle
ice scratchers
SLP tri keel skis
ported
high compression head
chrome low windshield
mountain bar
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Re: Bolt On Spree-Dio swap Shock Mount...Proposed Design...
86 spree
sb 50 intake and reeds
3.00x10 rear tire
waxed
99Polaris indy 700
harliquim paint
2" bar riser
lefty throttle
ice scratchers
SLP tri keel skis
ported
high compression head
chrome low windshield
mountain bar
Xtra-10
I ALWAYS KEEP ONE ROLLED
sb 50 intake and reeds
3.00x10 rear tire
waxed
99Polaris indy 700
harliquim paint
2" bar riser
lefty throttle
ice scratchers
SLP tri keel skis
ported
high compression head
chrome low windshield
mountain bar
Xtra-10
I ALWAYS KEEP ONE ROLLED
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Re: Bolt On Spree-Dio swap Shock Mount...Proposed Design...
Ok, here are a few pics of my prototype. (sorry for the low quality, the wife took off with the camera for tonight) The attached pics are a MINIATURE version of my design.
There will be holes pre-drilled in my mount. You will have to drill holes into your frame to make holes for the mounting bolts. The holes you will drill will be in the place where the frame halves are pressed together. (The 1/2 inch or so of flat steel on either side of the frame.)I love the idea of a bolt on shock mount but how does this connect to the frame?
I will post some pics of my prototype, along with some more pics of my prototype with some markings indicating what measurements I need to know.PM my with a solid list of measurements you need. im currently tearing down my spree. And noise guy i think made on adapter and it was just a wishbone type thing about 3 in long the attached to the bottom of the shock and the shock mount on the trans.
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Re: Bolt On Spree-Dio swap Shock Mount...Proposed Design...
the bolt the shock mounts on to will deffinatly need to be bigger.
86 spree
sb 50 intake and reeds
3.00x10 rear tire
waxed
99Polaris indy 700
harliquim paint
2" bar riser
lefty throttle
ice scratchers
SLP tri keel skis
ported
high compression head
chrome low windshield
mountain bar
Xtra-10
I ALWAYS KEEP ONE ROLLED
sb 50 intake and reeds
3.00x10 rear tire
waxed
99Polaris indy 700
harliquim paint
2" bar riser
lefty throttle
ice scratchers
SLP tri keel skis
ported
high compression head
chrome low windshield
mountain bar
Xtra-10
I ALWAYS KEEP ONE ROLLED
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Re: Bolt On Spree-Dio swap Shock Mount...Proposed Design...
Yeah, I know. This is just a miniature prototype to test the design and to give you guys a solid visual on the measurements I'll need.the bolt the shock mounts on to will deffinatly need to be bigger.
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Re: Bolt On Spree-Dio swap Shock Mount...Proposed Design...
I love the idea of a bolt on shock mount but how does this connect to the frame?
If you have to drill holes tn the frame....then drill on straight through, put a bolt in the hole and mount your shock to it.richdavison34 wrote: There will be holes pre-drilled in my mount. You will have to drill holes into your frame to make holes for the mounting bolts. The holes you will drill will be in the place where the frame halves are pressed together. (The 1/2 inch or so of flat steel on either side of the frame.)
People who want this "bolt on" mount will not be willing to drill holes in the frame
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Re: Bolt On Spree-Dio swap Shock Mount...Proposed Design...
Thanks trafficjamz! This is the kind of feedback I'm looking for to make a better design.People who want this "bolt on" mount will not be willing to drill holes in the frame
I do some rethinking this afternoon and develop a non-invasive approach.
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Re: Bolt On Spree-Dio swap Shock Mount...Proposed Design...
but would that be strongenough?Trafficjamz wrote:I love the idea of a bolt on shock mount but how does this connect to the frame?If you have to drill holes tn the frame....then drill on straight through, put a bolt in the hole and mount your shock to it.richdavison34 wrote: There will be holes pre-drilled in my mount. You will have to drill holes into your frame to make holes for the mounting bolts. The holes you will drill will be in the place where the frame halves are pressed together. (The 1/2 inch or so of flat steel on either side of the frame.)
People who want this "bolt on" mount will not be willing to drill holes in the frame
86 spree
sb 50 intake and reeds
3.00x10 rear tire
waxed
99Polaris indy 700
harliquim paint
2" bar riser
lefty throttle
ice scratchers
SLP tri keel skis
ported
high compression head
chrome low windshield
mountain bar
Xtra-10
I ALWAYS KEEP ONE ROLLED
sb 50 intake and reeds
3.00x10 rear tire
waxed
99Polaris indy 700
harliquim paint
2" bar riser
lefty throttle
ice scratchers
SLP tri keel skis
ported
high compression head
chrome low windshield
mountain bar
Xtra-10
I ALWAYS KEEP ONE ROLLED
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Re: Bolt On Spree-Dio swap Shock Mount...Proposed Design...
I think drilling 4 holes in that "pressed frame half" and running the mounting bolts through there would be very strong. Drilling the holes would also be very easy. I could even include the bots with self locking nuts in the "bolt-on" kit. All you would have to do is drill four holes and bolt her up.
This being said, there may be some folks that want a completely non-invasive application (nothing wrong with that, I'm all about meeting the customers preferences). I'm thinking the way to accomplish this is to devise something that would "pinch" those frame halves instead of running the bolts through them. As I see it in my head, it will be equally strong, it will just take more material.
My goal is to send you guys an all inclusive shock mount...(mounting bolts, instructions, etc)
I'll make another protoype this afternoon. Can anyone take some detailed pics of that area of the spree frame? That would help me out a lot in the initial design process.
This being said, there may be some folks that want a completely non-invasive application (nothing wrong with that, I'm all about meeting the customers preferences). I'm thinking the way to accomplish this is to devise something that would "pinch" those frame halves instead of running the bolts through them. As I see it in my head, it will be equally strong, it will just take more material.
My goal is to send you guys an all inclusive shock mount...(mounting bolts, instructions, etc)
I'll make another protoype this afternoon. Can anyone take some detailed pics of that area of the spree frame? That would help me out a lot in the initial design process.
"Normality is an illusion rooted in the disease of fear, the unafflicted labeled insane".
"The removal of ignorance is more important that the acquisition of knowledge."
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Carb Swap. Cone filter.
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Re: Bolt On Spree-Dio swap Shock Mount...Proposed Design...
Instead of drilling through the frame could you use the battery box holes instead?
Complete NOOB, sorry dudes
1984 Iowa Spreedio aka "Hammy"
-72cc Polini Corsa
-V8 Typhoon Exhaust
-21mm OKO & CT Mani
-ZX Trans 1k Contra
-8.44:1 Gears
-Polini 2 Shoe Clutch
-Koso Vented Clutch Bell
-Polini Ruckus Vari w/ 6.9g weights
-669x18x30 Belt
1984 Iowa Spreedio aka "Hammy"
-72cc Polini Corsa
-V8 Typhoon Exhaust
-21mm OKO & CT Mani
-ZX Trans 1k Contra
-8.44:1 Gears
-Polini 2 Shoe Clutch
-Koso Vented Clutch Bell
-Polini Ruckus Vari w/ 6.9g weights
-669x18x30 Belt