AF16E Spree swap, summer project!
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Re: AF16E Spree swap, summer project!
read through the entire thing..... kinda freaked me out lol. is there another swap thread that i'm missing on this sight? everyone keeps saying it's an easy swap but that seemed a lil more involved than originally depicted. still wonna do it, just wonna stream line it and remove room for my error.
85 honda spree
07 honda ruckus
05 acura rsx typeS (sold)
07 honda ruckus
05 acura rsx typeS (sold)
Re: AF16E Spree swap, summer project!
the noise mostly comes from the carb. if you can get an airbox on that carb, it will quiet down the engine noise alot. if you want to run thge stock exhaust on the corsa, it will be ok. just dont expect high rpm's out of the setup but the torque will be great. you will be down about 2k rpm as the stock pipe will limit it to around 8500 which is still good.
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Re: AF16E Spree swap, summer project!
Um, yeah.... this build takes the difficult method more oft than the simple. The af16 motor mount can be modified to fit the spree frame without the whole "let's hack apart an elete frame" method. It's so much simpler that many of us recoiled in horror at the different "method" employed on this build. Somebody find this dude the link he wants, I'm at work and have stuff to do!natek wrote:read through the entire thing..... kinda freaked me out lol. is there another swap thread that i'm missing on this sight? everyone keeps saying it's an easy swap but that seemed a lil more involved than originally depicted. still wonna do it, just wonna stream line it and remove room for my error.
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Ol' Red
1987 Spree, 42mph on 49cc (gps)
Broken...
Spreeio
1987 Spree
With af16e powah!!!!
77cc Malossi Ministroker, 24mm oKo, 30mm V8 pipe.
Chinabike 3000! GY6 clone daily driver/ beater machine bought for $75!
1987 Spree, 42mph on 49cc (gps)
Broken...
Spreeio
1987 Spree
With af16e powah!!!!
77cc Malossi Ministroker, 24mm oKo, 30mm V8 pipe.
Chinabike 3000! GY6 clone daily driver/ beater machine bought for $75!
Re: AF16E Spree swap, summer project!
'Spreetard wrote:Um, yeah.... this build takes the difficult method more oft than the simple. The af16 motor mount can be modified to fit the spree frame without the whole "let's hack apart an elete frame" method. It's so much simpler that many of us recoiled in horror at the different "method" employed on this build. Somebody find this dude the link he wants, I'm at work and have stuff to do!natek wrote:read through the entire thing..... kinda freaked me out lol. is there another swap thread that i'm missing on this sight? everyone keeps saying it's an easy swap but that seemed a lil more involved than originally depicted. still wonna do it, just wonna stream line it and remove room for my error.
that would be swell!!!!! thanks
something that i cant seem to find (maybe in the link). do you have to relocate the shock mount? i've heard both. someone said an offest shock would work but no one has told which one. the ruckus shock was mentioned and i can experiment with that since i have one, but there has to be another option.
85 honda spree
07 honda ruckus
05 acura rsx typeS (sold)
07 honda ruckus
05 acura rsx typeS (sold)
Re: AF16E Spree swap, summer project!
The shock mount needs moved back a bit.
I know there's got to be a more detailed thread than mine, but here it is ... viewtopic.php?f=16&t=18402 My thread is not the most detailed, though
I'll try to find a better link when I'm not at work...
I know there's got to be a more detailed thread than mine, but here it is ... viewtopic.php?f=16&t=18402 My thread is not the most detailed, though
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I'll try to find a better link when I'm not at work...
Ol' Red
1987 Spree, 42mph on 49cc (gps)
Broken...
Spreeio
1987 Spree
With af16e powah!!!!
77cc Malossi Ministroker, 24mm oKo, 30mm V8 pipe.
Chinabike 3000! GY6 clone daily driver/ beater machine bought for $75!
1987 Spree, 42mph on 49cc (gps)
Broken...
Spreeio
1987 Spree
With af16e powah!!!!
77cc Malossi Ministroker, 24mm oKo, 30mm V8 pipe.
Chinabike 3000! GY6 clone daily driver/ beater machine bought for $75!
Re: AF16E Spree swap, summer project!
richdavidson34 here on the forum fabricates custom shock mounts for the spree/af16 engine swap, all that is required is 4 holes drilled to bolt it on, can be used with the spree shock or the elite shock
he is a super guy, fast shipment, and perfect welds ![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
1986 Spree/ Eve af16 swapped 65cc Prodigy vari 8g 9:1 Ruima gears
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
Re: AF16E Spree swap, summer project!
That's the stuff I'm looking for!!!!! I know that stuff is on this sight but I just can't find it!Mystic wrote:richdavidson34 here on the forum fabricates custom shock mounts for the spree/af16 engine swap, all that is required is 4 holes drilled to bolt it on, can be used with the spree shock or the elite shockhe is a super guy, fast shipment, and perfect welds
85 honda spree
07 honda ruckus
05 acura rsx typeS (sold)
07 honda ruckus
05 acura rsx typeS (sold)
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Re: AF16E Spree swap, summer project!
He is making one for me if you are looking for a bracket. I made my own but if you want you can have the bracket he is currently making just pm him.
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Sprite
Re: AF16E Spree swap, summer project!
i pm'd him like 2 weeks ago and got no response.sprite2011 wrote:He is making one for me if you are looking for a bracket. I made my own but if you want you can have the bracket he is currently making just pm him.
Sprite
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Re: AF16E Spree swap, summer project!
Wow its been way too long! But after multiple problems its finally running the way it should! At least i hope
Settings are as follows
42, 103
Clip on the needle in the middle
#9 Plug
I know its lean but its not four stroking any more and HAULS A**!!
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Settings are as follows
42, 103
Clip on the needle in the middle
#9 Plug
I know its lean but its not four stroking any more and HAULS A**!!
![naughty :naughty:](./images/smilies/icon_eyebrows.gif)
![naughty :naughty:](./images/smilies/icon_eyebrows.gif)
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Complete NOOB, sorry dudes
1984 Iowa Spreedio aka "Hammy"
-72cc Polini Corsa
-V8 Typhoon Exhaust
-21mm OKO & CT Mani
-ZX Trans 1k Contra
-8.44:1 Gears
-Polini 2 Shoe Clutch
-Koso Vented Clutch Bell
-Polini Ruckus Vari w/ 6.9g weights
-669x18x30 Belt
1984 Iowa Spreedio aka "Hammy"
-72cc Polini Corsa
-V8 Typhoon Exhaust
-21mm OKO & CT Mani
-ZX Trans 1k Contra
-8.44:1 Gears
-Polini 2 Shoe Clutch
-Koso Vented Clutch Bell
-Polini Ruckus Vari w/ 6.9g weights
-669x18x30 Belt
- Petrock's 1984 Spree
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Re: AF16E Spree swap, summer project!
New settings, it was bogging and losing power right around 30-35
40, 103
Clip 1 up from middle
B9HS plug
Although now there is another problem. When its cooling down at a stop light it'll drop from around 290 to 260. Then when i try to take off again it will bog and lose power. I have to rev it a couple times before it will want to take off again. Whats the deal with that?
40, 103
Clip 1 up from middle
B9HS plug
Although now there is another problem. When its cooling down at a stop light it'll drop from around 290 to 260. Then when i try to take off again it will bog and lose power. I have to rev it a couple times before it will want to take off again. Whats the deal with that?
Complete NOOB, sorry dudes
1984 Iowa Spreedio aka "Hammy"
-72cc Polini Corsa
-V8 Typhoon Exhaust
-21mm OKO & CT Mani
-ZX Trans 1k Contra
-8.44:1 Gears
-Polini 2 Shoe Clutch
-Koso Vented Clutch Bell
-Polini Ruckus Vari w/ 6.9g weights
-669x18x30 Belt
1984 Iowa Spreedio aka "Hammy"
-72cc Polini Corsa
-V8 Typhoon Exhaust
-21mm OKO & CT Mani
-ZX Trans 1k Contra
-8.44:1 Gears
-Polini 2 Shoe Clutch
-Koso Vented Clutch Bell
-Polini Ruckus Vari w/ 6.9g weights
-669x18x30 Belt
Re: AF16E Spree swap, summer project!
to lean. put a that 42 or 45 pilot back in.
Nothing like getting stroked!
Thanks to my sponsors
Nos Energy Drinks,themopedcompany.com,nwautoevents.com,Cycle Gear
90 honda dio sp 72cc
87 elite 50 s with 86cc watercooled mini stroke
87 elite 50 race bike mhr 72cc
91 yamaha tzr 250r
Thanks to my sponsors
Nos Energy Drinks,themopedcompany.com,nwautoevents.com,Cycle Gear
90 honda dio sp 72cc
87 elite 50 s with 86cc watercooled mini stroke
87 elite 50 race bike mhr 72cc
91 yamaha tzr 250r
- Petrock's 1984 Spree
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- Posts: 768
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Re: AF16E Spree swap, summer project!
I put the 42 back in, but haven't gotten the chance to see if it fixes the problem. I was scared off by the cylinder heads temps reading over 330F at around 35
Going to try the 105 main and see what happens
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Going to try the 105 main and see what happens
Complete NOOB, sorry dudes
1984 Iowa Spreedio aka "Hammy"
-72cc Polini Corsa
-V8 Typhoon Exhaust
-21mm OKO & CT Mani
-ZX Trans 1k Contra
-8.44:1 Gears
-Polini 2 Shoe Clutch
-Koso Vented Clutch Bell
-Polini Ruckus Vari w/ 6.9g weights
-669x18x30 Belt
1984 Iowa Spreedio aka "Hammy"
-72cc Polini Corsa
-V8 Typhoon Exhaust
-21mm OKO & CT Mani
-ZX Trans 1k Contra
-8.44:1 Gears
-Polini 2 Shoe Clutch
-Koso Vented Clutch Bell
-Polini Ruckus Vari w/ 6.9g weights
-669x18x30 Belt
- Petrock's 1984 Spree
- Elite
- Posts: 768
- Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:20 pm
- Location: Iowa
Re: AF16E Spree swap, summer project!
I like the temps better with the 105, although very mild signs of bogging and loss of power happen around 1/2 throttle once again. Back to the 103
I dont like the temps with it, so im gonna bump the pilot up to a 45 to see if that'll cool it off a bit more
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I dont like the temps with it, so im gonna bump the pilot up to a 45 to see if that'll cool it off a bit more
Complete NOOB, sorry dudes
1984 Iowa Spreedio aka "Hammy"
-72cc Polini Corsa
-V8 Typhoon Exhaust
-21mm OKO & CT Mani
-ZX Trans 1k Contra
-8.44:1 Gears
-Polini 2 Shoe Clutch
-Koso Vented Clutch Bell
-Polini Ruckus Vari w/ 6.9g weights
-669x18x30 Belt
1984 Iowa Spreedio aka "Hammy"
-72cc Polini Corsa
-V8 Typhoon Exhaust
-21mm OKO & CT Mani
-ZX Trans 1k Contra
-8.44:1 Gears
-Polini 2 Shoe Clutch
-Koso Vented Clutch Bell
-Polini Ruckus Vari w/ 6.9g weights
-669x18x30 Belt
Re: AF16E Spree swap, summer project!
If your having problems with partial throttle then try adjusting the needle setting before messing with the jet.
1986 Spree w/ '87 SE50 motor
1985 Aero 50 w/ Dio motor: On Hold
1985 Aero 50 w/ Dio motor: On Hold