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Re: 1987 SE50 naked scooter project

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:45 pm
by TiffanySpree
I was wondering about that. It only came with the side piece around the fan. It does blow air over the cylinder and head pretty good. I thought that since I didn't have body panels, I may be safe. Any opinions or FHE on this?

I found the fan shroud on my local dealer site:

SHROUD
19620-GR1-020 (replaces 19620-GR1-010) 001 $22.37 $20.13

Re: 1987 SE50 naked scooter project

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:23 pm
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:

Over the past 3 years, I've followed a few threads where people got cute with going shroud-less. None of them ended well...
YMMV

Re: 1987 SE50 naked scooter project

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:38 pm
by Trafficjamz

Re: 1987 SE50 naked scooter project

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:09 pm
by TiffanySpree
Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:

Over the past 3 years, I've followed a few threads where people got cute with going shroud-less. None of them ended well...
YMMV
A couple posts back you digged it. Now you don't like it? Bad seat chop??

Re: 1987 SE50 naked scooter project

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:39 pm
by MopedMark
TiffanySpree wrote:
Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:

Over the past 3 years, I've followed a few threads where people got cute with going shroud-less. None of them ended well...
YMMV
A couple posts back you digged it. Now you don't like it? Bad seat chop??

I am pretty sure he was just backing me up on the top end shroud.

Re: 1987 SE50 naked scooter project

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:45 pm
by TiffanySpree
Oops! I read shroud as body panels. I have to read more thoroughly and carefully. My bad. Carry on... :b2t:

Re: 1987 SE50 naked scooter project

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:29 am
by sum-azn-kid
I noticed in your flickr pics you had the metro brake on the exhaust side(looks alot cleeaner with brake line going back), did that mean your speedo gear spun backwards? basicly could you speedo still read?

Re: 1987 SE50 naked scooter project

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:23 am
by TiffanySpree
Nice observation! I was hoping it was true. But no, the elite speedo was reading backwards. I flipped it back. It reads about 5mph slow. I'm not sure if that's from the metro front brake plate or just speedo error. But yeah I tried it in hopes of cleaning up the cable routing. Back to the drawing board!!

Re: 1987 SE50 naked scooter project

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:46 am
by Trafficjamz
TiffanySpree wrote:Nice observation! I was hoping it was true. But no, the elite speedo was reading backwards. I flipped it back. It reads about 5mph slow. I'm not sure if that's from the metro front brake plate or just speedo error. But yeah I tried it in hopes of cleaning up the cable routing. Back to the drawing board!!

It probably reads slow because the met tire is way bigger than the stock front tire of an 87 elite.

Re: 1987 SE50 naked scooter project

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:25 pm
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:

On both '87 Aero and 2001 Elite models, the Met 90/90 tire nearly perfectly corrected the optimistic Honda speedometer error. GPS was within 1-2 percent of speedo reading, personally observed. The 3.50 tire caused about a 3 percent pessimistic reading. (31 MPH on GPS = 30 on the Speedo, my current setup - also personally verified.)

BTW I do like the naked look without frame covers. I was indeed referring to running the engine without the cooling shrouds. I still believe that to be a Very Bad Idea. YMMV...

Re: 1987 SE50 naked scooter project

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:53 pm
by fightingplankton
i like this build, been following it and just figured out what i think it needs.
paint the oil tank black. of course, leave a vertical strip so you can see the oil level.
i think it'd make it look more complete.

Re: 1987 SE50 naked scooter project

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:23 pm
by sum-azn-kid
Was you front end lifted when you put on the metro frontend or the same height as stock?

Re: 1987 SE50 naked scooter project

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:02 am
by TiffanySpree
Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:

On both '87 Aero and 2001 Elite models, the Met 90/90 tire nearly perfectly corrected the optimistic Honda speedometer error. GPS was within 1-2 percent of speedo reading, personally observed. The 3.50 tire caused about a 3 percent pessimistic reading. (31 MPH on GPS = 30 on the Speedo, my current setup - also personally verified.)

BTW I do like the naked look without frame covers. I was indeed referring to running the engine without the cooling shrouds. I still believe that to be a Very Bad Idea. YMMV...
I measured it with my iPhone gps. Not sure of it's accurracy. Are all the brake plates the same gear ratio?

About the fan shroud, it's already bolted on and I feel much better about it. Thanks for the tip and the shroud!

Re: 1987 SE50 naked scooter project

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:09 am
by TiffanySpree
fightingplankton wrote:i like this build, been following it and just figured out what i think it needs.
paint the oil tank black. of course, leave a vertical strip so you can see the oil level.
i think it'd make it look more complete.

Yeah, good idea! I may just do that. I really like the exposed strip idea. Since I removed the wiring for the level, I'll need it. But right now, I'd rather go scoot around. The latest addition is a Canadian market Givi e230 23 liter hard case. I'll load pics later. Great accessory! I can lock my cable and helmet in it. It easily carries a few items for grocery run too. I can swap it between scooters or my Ducati Monster.

Re: 1987 SE50 naked scooter project

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:12 am
by TiffanySpree
sum-azn-kid wrote:Was you front end lifted when you put on the metro frontend or the same height as stock?
No it seems level. I was debating over putting an extension block for the shorter rear Ruckus shock. If I did, the rear tire will touch the ground when it's on the centerstand.