NEED IDEAS FOR A CHEAP, FAST BIKE

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NEED IDEAS FOR A CHEAP, FAST BIKE

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Heres a pic of my bike. Its a 2000 Honda Elite S. Engine code AF16E. I was looking at some polini corsa kits, ruima ministroker kits and so on and so forth, but im looking at 800 dollars with that. I just recently got in to the scooter tuning scene and all i did was turn the smaller screw on the carb (not the idle or drain) in all the way which actually made it run a lot better, removed the restriction from the muffler and variator, and drilled out some of the baffles in the exhaust to make it flow a bit better (keep in mind it has 3k miles). I just need info on where to go for parts, what parts to get, and how to make my bike run really fast on a tight budget. she revs out at around 38-40 mph.
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'00 Honda Elite S.....................'06 Yamaha Zuma
-80cc Taiwanese BBK...............-Taiwan pwr pkg
-Malossi Vari
-6.9:1 Primary gears
-High Energy Ignition Coil
-Carbon Fiber Reeds
-Chrome CT Mani
-28mm OKO Carb
-Uni Pod Filter
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Re: NEED IDEAS FOR A CHEAP, FAST BIKE

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Cheap and fast is not reliable and reliable and fast is not cheap
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Re: NEED IDEAS FOR A CHEAP, FAST BIKE

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An old adage...

Speed costs money.

How fast do you want to go?..... :coolcruise:
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GN Racer wrote:An old adage...

Speed costs money.

How fast do you want to go?..... :coolcruise:
it goes around 40 right now. i dont want an insane 120mph+ bike or anything of that caliber, but somewhere around 60 would be nice. i was thinking some new primary gears and a final drive at 9:1 or 7:1 on 72ccs.... i just got into all this and need some ideas
'00 Honda Elite S.....................'06 Yamaha Zuma
-80cc Taiwanese BBK...............-Taiwan pwr pkg
-Malossi Vari
-6.9:1 Primary gears
-High Energy Ignition Coil
-Carbon Fiber Reeds
-Chrome CT Mani
-28mm OKO Carb
-Uni Pod Filter
-PG Long pipe
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A nice gearing would help you out if you want to go beyond 40 mph without your motor scream to death. It's more of tuning than throwing thing on it to make it go fast. I would rake baby steps for now until you figured out 2 cycle motor.
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jlynn433 wrote: all i did was turn the smaller screw on the carb (not the idle or drain) in all the way which actually made it run a lot better, removed the restriction from the muffler and variator, and drilled out some of the baffles in the exhaust to make it flow a bit better
You need to do a plug chop with a new plug. http://hondaspree.net/wiki/index.php5?t ... Plug_Chops

If you had to turn the adj. screw all the way in to make it run better than there is a possibility you have a vacuum leak , or could be caused by drilling out the exhaust restriction and the baffles but not rejetting the carb.

You are running with an air filter?

Hate to see that pretty scooter get hurt.
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dun rite wrote:
jlynn433 wrote: all i did was turn the smaller screw on the carb (not the idle or drain) in all the way which actually made it run a lot better, removed the restriction from the muffler and variator, and drilled out some of the baffles in the exhaust to make it flow a bit better
You need to do a plug chop with a new plug. http://hondaspree.net/wiki/index.php5?t ... Plug_Chops

If you had to turn the adj. screw all the way in to make it run better than there is a possibility you have a vacuum leak , or could be caused by drilling out the exhaust restriction and the baffles but not rejetting the carb.

You are running with an air filter?

Hate to see that pretty scooter get hurt.
id hate to see her get hurt too shes my baby lol... i always ran it with the stock airbox and i did the carb adjustment before i drilled the baffles, so that cant be the culprit.... can you walk me through how to check the vacuum system?
'00 Honda Elite S.....................'06 Yamaha Zuma
-80cc Taiwanese BBK...............-Taiwan pwr pkg
-Malossi Vari
-6.9:1 Primary gears
-High Energy Ignition Coil
-Carbon Fiber Reeds
-Chrome CT Mani
-28mm OKO Carb
-Uni Pod Filter
-PG Long pipe
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vacuum leak would be a bad gasket or seal in the intake system. you can use a flammable spray or unlit propane torch, with the motor running you spray around the intake gaskets. crankcase area seals, if the engine revs up at any spot than that gasket, seal, etc. is allowing air into the fuel delivery system.
taz 50mm bbk, 51g. rollers,1500 c spring
24mm arreche, #20 pilot, E2 needle clip on lower groove
arreche air filter
Naruku intake, reeds & block
v8 pipe
stock gears
trail tech temp & rpm gauges
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And if i had a bad seal/vacuum leak would i fix it with just some gasket paper and rtv?
'00 Honda Elite S.....................'06 Yamaha Zuma
-80cc Taiwanese BBK...............-Taiwan pwr pkg
-Malossi Vari
-6.9:1 Primary gears
-High Energy Ignition Coil
-Carbon Fiber Reeds
-Chrome CT Mani
-28mm OKO Carb
-Uni Pod Filter
-PG Long pipe
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Big bore kit, gears and a variator are the biggest speed makers. Should cost about 300. You could spend more on other stuff if you wanted to
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PimpinSpree wrote:Big bore kit, gears and a variator are the biggest speed makers. Should cost about 300. You could spend more on other stuff if you wanted to
What parts should i buy for the variator? I was looking at polini 7.7g weights but im not sure of exactly what parts to get for the variator system
'00 Honda Elite S.....................'06 Yamaha Zuma
-80cc Taiwanese BBK...............-Taiwan pwr pkg
-Malossi Vari
-6.9:1 Primary gears
-High Energy Ignition Coil
-Carbon Fiber Reeds
-Chrome CT Mani
-28mm OKO Carb
-Uni Pod Filter
-PG Long pipe
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go to ebay and search "dio variator" People prefer the italian made stuff, but i seriously doubt its worth the price difference of the chinese stuff
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I have a spare rumia vari. Very light and engine revs well! I think I bout for around $55 shipped more than willing to let go for $45 or reasonable offer also have spare poli vari. Doesn't say poli like the rumia says but still great and light wieght same price ... Pm me
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dun rite wrote:vacuum leak would be a bad gasket or seal in the intake system. you can use a flammable spray or unlit propane torch, with the motor running you spray around the intake gaskets. crankcase area seals, if the engine revs up at any spot than that gasket, seal, etc. is allowing air into the fuel delivery system.
I just got around to checking the vacuum system. this one seems to be the culprit. its the gasket on the bottom of the manifold where it meets the reeds
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this is the torn/cracked gasket. would hi-temp gasket seal fix it? i have something made by permatex
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'00 Honda Elite S.....................'06 Yamaha Zuma
-80cc Taiwanese BBK...............-Taiwan pwr pkg
-Malossi Vari
-6.9:1 Primary gears
-High Energy Ignition Coil
-Carbon Fiber Reeds
-Chrome CT Mani
-28mm OKO Carb
-Uni Pod Filter
-PG Long pipe
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Definitely will make your motor run poorly
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