Honda elite 80 variator questions with pictures

[mopar4u]

93 elite 80 variator

All the rollers have a flat on them. Can these be rotated or do they need replacement? See attached photos.

Clutch has an o ring along with back plate. Clutch internals are all greased. I thought scooter variators shouldn't be greased. Is this model an exception?

Any suggestions for different weight rollers?

[martynkim]

OEM they came greased. This is not necessary. Yes you need new rollers.

[mopar4u]

OEM they came greased. This is not necessary. Yes you need new rollers.

if I do not grease do I need the back cover (lower right corner in photo)?

[toad772]

OEM they came greased. This is not necessary. Yes you need new rollers.

if I do not grease do I need the back cover (lower right corner in photo)?

Yes that is still needed.

[evilone]

OEM they came greased. This is not necessary. Yes you need new rollers.

if I do not grease do I need the back cover (lower right corner in photo)?

No that is not needed, it's a grease cover so no grease equals no cover.

[mopar4u]

OEM they came greased. This is not necessary. Yes you need new rollers.

if I do not grease do I need the back cover (lower right corner in photo)?

No that is not needed, it's a grease cover so no grease equals no cover.

Does the grease cover act as any kind of restrictor? Any benefits to running no grease vs. running grease?
Anyone happen to know the size and weight of the ch80 rollers?

[mopar4u]

[az_slynch]

Anyone happen to know the size and weight of the ch80 rollers?

Ask for rollers at your local scooter shop, bring an old one for reference. They're the same dimensionally as several of the GY6 clone motors. I think they interchangable with the Genuine Buddys.

Stock roller weight is 10g. The engine will variate from low to high around 17mph. Try lighter rollers if you're a bigger guy. I run 8g rollers on my CH80; it variates at 27mph, takes off quicker in traffic and still tops out in the upper-mid 40s.

[toad772]

OEM they came greased. This is not necessary. Yes you need new rollers.

if I do not grease do I need the back cover (lower right corner in photo)?

No that is not needed, it's a grease cover so no grease equals no cover.

With it things are held in so if you take it off nothing will get lost.

[az_slynch]

Anyone happen to know the size and weight of the ch80 rollers?

Ask for rollers at your local scooter shop, bring an old one for reference. They're the same dimensionally as several of the GY6 clone motors. I think they interchangable with the Genuine Buddys.

Stock roller weight is 10g. The engine will variate from low to high around 17mph. Try lighter rollers if you're a bigger guy. I run 8g rollers on my CH80; it variates at 27mph, takes off quicker in traffic and still tops out in the upper-mid 40s.

[evilone]

With it things are held in so if you take it off nothing will get lost.

Carefully taking parts off will result in no missing pieces. There is a ramp plate, rollers, and slides. I'd hate to see you tear a carb apart...screws, float, needle, jets

[mopar4u]

d*** Im confused,

If I choose to go no grease do I need the grease cover or not? Does the greese cover also double as a top speed restrictor for the ramp plate?

[Wheelman-111]

Greetings:

Take the grease cover off and leave it off, running the new rollers dry. Yes, it may restrict variator travel, if only a little.

I recommend you round off the sharp corners of the ramp plate - the part in the upper left of your pic. That way when the rollers travel to the edge, they won't get shaved by the sharp edges.