1989 Elite E not getting enough spark...?

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Re: 1989 Elite E not getting enough spark...?

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konaking wrote:Dude I really don't want to get into it with you on an internet forum. I'm not saying the bystarter plugs into the battery. I was simply trying to explain the area that the bystarter plug leads to. I know exactly how the stator and electrical components work so there is no need for hostility. And fyi I'm an ase certified mechanic and I troubleshoot and repair way more complicated diesel engines and small cars and trucks. I was just suggesting that the bystarter may be stuck down causing the carb to run too rich. I'm not claiming to be an expert just trying to offer some advice. I've read other threads in which you rant and attack other members who are just trying to help. I'm not gonna argue with you about what goes where because your a waste of my time. Your a disabled old fart that has nothing better to do than sit on your computer at home and * off and act like an * on honda spree.
And I'm telling you it does not and never did. If you knew how to read a wiring diagram you would see that. If the bystarter plugs into the battery, why does it still work if you running the scooter without the battery. It's because it runs of the AC directly off the stator (part of the alternator because it produces AC) on the yellow wire, straight to the bystarter and then to ground through the resistor. NO DC ever gets there and to change DC into AC current you need an inverter which these scooter do not have.

I rant because know nothings like you dispense incorrect and just plain false info on the net and you have to be stopped. There is so much bad info put out on the net and it has made anything one sees on the net suspect at best. And you are not helping with your WRONG info.

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I am an old fart but at least I know what I am taking about which it is obvious to anyone that knows crap about scooter, that you DON"T!
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Re: 1989 Elite E not getting enough spark...?

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konaking wrote:I was just suggesting that the bystarter may be stuck down causing the carb to run too rich. I'm not claiming to be an expert just trying to offer some advice..
The bystarter is an electronic choke circuit.

It is in the "UP" or retracted position when the scooter is off, which lets more fuel in to the mixture.

It slowly moves to the "DOWN" or extended position when the scooter is running, which leans the mixture out.

Not the other way around.
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Just lookin to fix my moped guys.
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Re: 1989 Elite E not getting enough spark...?

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Gotwake try unplugging your bystarter that's all I'm gonna say. These guys want to get super technical on here. The bystarterwire leads to somewhere by the battery. I haven't worked on a stock bike with a bystarter in years so idk exactly where it plugs into.
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konaking wrote:Gotwake try unplugging your bystarter that's all I'm gonna say. These guys want to get super technical on here. The bystarterwire leads to somewhere by the battery. I haven't worked on a stock bike with a bystarter in years so idk exactly where it plugs into.
kona chump, you can't learn from your own mistakes, how the * can you give advise about something you obviously don't know anthing about and don't understand at all. It wont' help and you are still despensing WRONG info.
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Bear you just don't wanna give up huh? What a * :b2t:
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konaking wrote:Bear you just don't wanna give up huh? What a * :b2t:
Me???? You've been told your are wrong by two different forum members and you are too stubborn to admit you are wrong, but it is me who won't give up? If you worked for me, you wouldn't.
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Bear45-70 wrote:
konaking wrote:Bear you just don't wanna give up huh? What a * :b2t:
Me???? You've been told your are wrong by two different forum members and you are too stubborn to admit you are wrong, but it is me who won't give up? If you worked for me, you wouldn't.

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Re: 1989 Elite E not getting enough spark...?

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Haha okay well I'm just suggesting that the bystarter might be stuck and that gotwake should try to unplug it jeez
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Re: 1989 Elite E not getting enough spark...?

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Greetings:

Editor's Note: Bear couldn't take this one, so he asked me to fill in:
Quoth KonaKiing:
Haha okay well I'm just suggesting that the bystarter might be stuck and that gotwake should try to unplug it jeez
Then you know Nothing about being "Stuck". Why, back in the Johnson Administration I had an entire 55-gallon drum of the then-new product called Super-Glue spilled on me as I was crawling through a ventilation duct. It took rotating teams of Fire and Rescue workers using jackhammers over two weeks to free me, you pitiful pile of pointless platitudes!

How'd I do, Dawg?
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my moped runs on deisel. wut do/?
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Re: 1989 Elite E not getting enough spark...?

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Haha, glad they got you out Wheelman.

I'm having a new company pick it up tonight to fix it. I've had my run and I can't figure it out anymore. I'll update you guys when I get back and finally figure out what was causing the problem.

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