stiff front forks
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stiff front forks
I've never had to mess with the front suspension of a moped, and I'm wondering how big of a job it would be to rebuild one. Whether it's on a spree or other moped, im sure they're somewhat alike, enough at least to give me a general idea. Anyone wanna lend a hand?
If it don't fit, force it. If it breaks, it needed to be replaced anyway.
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Re: stiff front forks
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Re: stiff front forks
I've taken apart some Elite/Spree/Gyro's. Pretty much the first thing I do is to compress the spring, and make sure there will not be parts flying when you release the 'c-clip'. Mind your personal safety! I compress, and tie off the legs with heavy wire, release the c-clip then put the fork on the ground, and remove the wire. There's no doubt other ways to do this. 'Jamz and others have done this many times, search, read their postings and reply's to your thread.
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Re: stiff front forks
what fluid, or lube do you run in them?
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Re: stiff front forks
The forks are very simple - they run dry. They have conical rubber bump stops to progressively add some travel at the end of stroke.
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Re: stiff front forks
they run dry? why the h*** are mine leaking!? oh well, thanks for the info.
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Re: stiff front forks
killerpancake wrote:they run dry? why the h*** are mine leaking!? oh well, thanks for the info.
Water?
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Re: stiff front forks
it has the consistency of 10w 30 though.
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Re: stiff front forks
dirty water?
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Re: stiff front forks
i just had a word with the previous owner, they filled with hydrolic fluid.
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Re: stiff front forks
And this is why NO ONE should work on these things without the service manual.killerpancake wrote:i just had a word with the previous owner, they filled with hydrolic fluid.
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Re: stiff front forks
Good advice. Took my variator apart to change to new weights. Still had the stock weights in it, and my entire variator was filled with grease. Not sure if it was from the factory like that but I removed all of it and installed new weights, and it added a whole lot of pickup and go to my ride. Unfortunatly I didnt know I should remove the plate to add more speed and I dont have an impact tool to remove it right now.Bear45-70 wrote:And this is why NO ONE should work on these things without the service manual.killerpancake wrote:i just had a word with the previous owner, they filled with hydrolic fluid.
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Re: stiff front forks
When these scooters were built, the standard thinking was the rollers needed to be packed in grease. Better materials and a rethink or two now means no grease. So don't put grease back into the variator, at least no more than a thin film.
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Re: stiff front forks
leave that stupid plate that bolts on the back of the var. off to you will like that ![twothumbs :2thumbs:](./images/smilies/icon_thumbsup.gif)
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Re: stiff front forks
Ill be taking it off as soon as I get an impact toolfastplastic wrote:leave that stupid plate that bolts on the back of the var. off to you will like that
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