SE50P Variator Purchase
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SE50P Variator Purchase
Hello,
I'm looking to deregulate my 1987 Honda Elite SE50P like a lot of other people and have researched some variators. The pollini variator looks like it comes with a ramp plate. It is more than the Keli variator but the ramp plate would be huge for me as I've had no luck locating one. I tried to order just a ramp plate off of Babbit's Online only to find out it is discontinued after waiting for a week. Any assistance on whether the Pollini variator would be a good buy for the 1987 Elite SE50P? Thanks in advance for any guidance! This forum has been amazing for a noob like me!
I'm looking to deregulate my 1987 Honda Elite SE50P like a lot of other people and have researched some variators. The pollini variator looks like it comes with a ramp plate. It is more than the Keli variator but the ramp plate would be huge for me as I've had no luck locating one. I tried to order just a ramp plate off of Babbit's Online only to find out it is discontinued after waiting for a week. Any assistance on whether the Pollini variator would be a good buy for the 1987 Elite SE50P? Thanks in advance for any guidance! This forum has been amazing for a noob like me!
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Re: SE50P Variator Purchase
Greetings:
The Polini for SE/05 should come with a pulley boss that replaces your stock one. It is an excellent choice, possibly the best one out there. There are cheaper choices, but none much/any better.
The Polini for SE/05 should come with a pulley boss that replaces your stock one. It is an excellent choice, possibly the best one out there. There are cheaper choices, but none much/any better.
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Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
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Re: SE50P Variator Purchase
Thanks so much, I found this bad boy online http://www.scootershop.com/catalog/prod ... ts_id=2375
You think this would be a decent price?
Thanks again for your help!
You think this would be a decent price?
Thanks again for your help!
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Re: SE50P Variator Purchase
It's hard to find them any cheaper.countmcnugget wrote:You think this would be a decent price?
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Re: SE50P Variator Purchase
Keep in mind that you will:
A: have to use your stock drive boss from your stock variator for it to fit.
B: you will very possibly have to dremel out the casework by the starter to allow it to fit. Not hard, just takes a little time and patience.
A: have to use your stock drive boss from your stock variator for it to fit.
B: you will very possibly have to dremel out the casework by the starter to allow it to fit. Not hard, just takes a little time and patience.
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Re: SE50P Variator Purchase
Hehe got a polini ordered and a pipe can't wait!
Thanks for all the advice now to check out my carb i'm pretty sure it is an 82 and sounds like i should get an 85.
Thanks for all the advice now to check out my carb i'm pretty sure it is an 82 and sounds like i should get an 85.
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Re: SE50P Variator Purchase
The Pollini rollers I got with the variator are I believe 6.9 or 6.3 grams is that okay to use in the 1987 SE50P or should I purchase some heavier rollers?
Thanks in advance for any advice!
Thanks in advance for any advice!
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Re: SE50P Variator Purchase
Greetings:
IF the stock rollers were 10s, then a jump down to 6.9 is huge. Changes of no more than a half-gram (3 grams total)at a time are done so you don't "overshoot" the ideal. I'd try all 9s first and see if the engine "bites" into its powerband. I fear with 6-somethings, it'll just rev to the moon and not really get down the road. Try the 6es if that's all you've got and see?
IF the stock rollers were 10s, then a jump down to 6.9 is huge. Changes of no more than a half-gram (3 grams total)at a time are done so you don't "overshoot" the ideal. I'd try all 9s first and see if the engine "bites" into its powerband. I fear with 6-somethings, it'll just rev to the moon and not really get down the road. Try the 6es if that's all you've got and see?
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Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
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Re: SE50P Variator Purchase
Thanks wheelman tried the rollers that came with haha sounded like i was going 50 but i wasnt moving haha. Will get some 9's asap!
Thanks again.
Thanks again.
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Re: SE50P Variator Purchase
So i tried the 9's and no luck my leovince sp3 came in from germany yesterday so wanted to see how she'd do. Also wanted to make sure i hadnt screwed anything else up with the variator so i put the old restricted one on and the pipe. She moved again! But i only hit about 20 mph im goin backwards haha. Picked up some 10 gram rollers today hope it helps.
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Re: SE50P Variator Purchase
countmcnugget wrote:So i tried the 9's and no luck my leovince sp3 came in from germany yesterday so wanted to see how she'd do. Also wanted to make sure i hadnt screwed anything else up with the variator so i put the old restricted one on and the pipe. She moved again! But i only hit about 20 mph im goin backwards haha. Picked up some 10 gram rollers today hope it helps.
That leovince pipe has a restrictor welded in the head pipe........You need to remove it to get the most out of it.
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Re: SE50P Variator Purchase
Oh shoot i didnt know that thanks trafficjamz. Do u know how difficult the process is/tools necessary? Thanks for your help. I might be faster than the neighbor kid on his 10 speed eventually haha!
Thanks again!
Thanks again!
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Re: SE50P Variator Purchase
buy a koso pulley...it's a taiwan made with a cheap price with a good performance...
it's way cheaper than polini..
it's way cheaper than polini..
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Re: SE50P Variator Purchase
Alright got the 10 grams in and ran it with the sp3 and pollini variator. Pulling 26 still. I am thinking the next step will be to get a new belt not sure how old the current one is, cleaning the carb which will be very interesting haha (not to mechanically handy) but i guess i gotta learn somehow and derestrict this sp3.
Wish me luck!
Any words of wisdom greatly appreciated.
Wish me luck!
Any words of wisdom greatly appreciated.
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Re: SE50P Variator Purchase
The belt width is more important than its age. When I swapped the Polini variator with Polini weights in my stock Iowa se50, it would max out at 30mph, up from the stock 25mph.countmcnugget wrote:Alright got the 10 grams in and ran it with the sp3 and pollini variator. Pulling 26 still. I am thinking the next step will be to get a new belt not sure how old the current one is, cleaning the carb which will be very interesting haha (not to mechanically handy) but i guess i gotta learn somehow and derestrict this sp3.
Wish me luck!
Any words of wisdom greatly appreciated.
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