1987 Honda Elite 50

Hazmatt37 · Post by **Hazmatt37** » Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:19 pm

I am in need of a little help. I recently purchased an older 1987 honda elite 50cc scooter. It had been sitting for a long time so I went through the whole thing. It has a new ring and piston with great compression. New plug. New Carb. Clean oil and oil tank. So I have spark and compression. Not really sure if I'm getting enough fuel but it just turns over. I also can't tell if the choke is working properly. Any help would be greatly appreciated. This thing should run.

swimmingfree · Post by **swimmingfree** » Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:30 pm

dose the carb have gas in it???
do you have spark???
swimmingfree

Hazmatt37 · Post by **Hazmatt37** » Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:23 pm

Yes I have spark, and yes there is fuel in the carb. That's why I'm so confused.

Hazmatt37 · Post by **Hazmatt37** » Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:13 pm

Also the spark plug is dry, it was getting oil but now it seems completely dry.

swimmingfree · Post by **swimmingfree** » Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:02 pm

you may need to prime the motor with some gas oil mix ...
swimmingfree

Hazmatt37 · Post by **Hazmatt37** » Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:35 pm

I have tried putting a little gas down the cyl. But it just popped a little, kinda like it tried to back fire.

Hazmatt37 · Post by **Hazmatt37** » Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:19 pm

Any other ideas?? How can I tell if the choke is working ?

Wheelman-111 · Post by **Wheelman-111** » Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:10 pm

Greetings:

The choke retracts with the engine off and cool, so it's always "working". The tiny hole that feeds fuel to it is sometimes blocked with dry fuel resin however. That's why we have the constant Mantra: Clean the carb again. If that's all good, have a look at the reeds once you plan ahead for replacement gaskets.

Hazmatt37 · Post by **Hazmatt37** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:57 am

Ok, I bought a new carb but it has kind of an dried oil coating (don't know how to explain it better) its kinda like cosmoline (if you know what that is) Anyways I will take it apart an clean it. What am I looking for when I pull the reeds out? I've never had a reed problem and don't really know what to look for. Thanks for the info, keep it coming.

Hazmatt37 · Post by **Hazmatt37** » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:38 pm

Alright this thing is close to getting the s*** beat out of it...here is what I have done: cleaned every part of this bike, it has new piston and ring (excellent compression) new plug, new carb and I cleaned it too, cleaned the oil pump and tank, filled with fresh clean oil, cleaned the gas tank and refilled with new gas, new gaskets all around, good vacuum, the carb has fuel it has spark it has compression, what else could be the problem...????? I'm going nuts..

evilone · Post by **evilone** » Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:25 pm

Did you make sure the marks on piston rings are facing up?

paulpauly7 · Post by **paulpauly7** » Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:31 pm

put a bit of premix down the spark plug hole put in the spark plug hook up cap and try to start

Hazmatt37 · Post by **Hazmatt37** » Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:53 pm

Evilone, actually the person I bought the scooter from had the piston done. It has excellent compression but I am not sure about the ring?? If the ring was upside down, what does that do to it? Thank you guys for your input..!!!

evilone · Post by **evilone** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:34 am

I did rings on my 87 awhile back and had the marks facing down. It acted the same as yours is. Flipped them and it started right up. If everything else is good it's worth a shot to check.

Hazmatt37 · Post by **Hazmatt37** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:46 am

Sweet, I will try it next weekend. Thank you so much for the idea. I was about to give up.

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