1994 honda elite SA50P Bogging down when throttle applied
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1994 honda elite SA50P Bogging down when throttle applied
Hello,
I have a honda elite. When I drive it, it Boggs down after quarter throttle and only goes 14 mph max. I put a new coil on it and it does the same. I was thinking of putting a similar Chinese cdi box on it (with the same prong arrangement). Would that work? Would that make it so it does not bogg down and goes faster? I don't need It to be 'hopped up' I just need it to be able to go 25 mph.
I have a honda elite. When I drive it, it Boggs down after quarter throttle and only goes 14 mph max. I put a new coil on it and it does the same. I was thinking of putting a similar Chinese cdi box on it (with the same prong arrangement). Would that work? Would that make it so it does not bogg down and goes faster? I don't need It to be 'hopped up' I just need it to be able to go 25 mph.
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Re: 1994 honda elite SA50P Bogging down when throttle applie
have you clean the carb ???
is it got fresh gas???
do you have the air filter on???
swimmingfree
is it got fresh gas???
do you have the air filter on???
swimmingfree
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se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
Re: 1994 honda elite SA50P Bogging down when throttle applie
Yes, I have done all of those. I think after a certain speed, the spark can't keep up with the amount of gas the engine is getting.
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Re: 1994 honda elite SA50P Bogging down when throttle applie
what is the plug gap???
swimmingfree
swimmingfree
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
- swimmingfree
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Re: 1994 honda elite SA50P Bogging down when throttle applie
drop it to 25....
swimmingfree
swimmingfree
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
Re: 1994 honda elite SA50P Bogging down when throttle applie
I did and it still runs the same.
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Re: 1994 honda elite SA50P Bogging down when throttle applie
what color is the plug??
swimmingfree
swimmingfree
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
- swimmingfree
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- Posts: 3357
- Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:28 pm
- Location: mich.
Re: 1994 honda elite SA50P Bogging down when throttle applie
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
Re: 1994 honda elite SA50P Bogging down when throttle applie
My elite used to do the same thing. Make sure you cleaned the carb REALLY WELL! A good carb dunk works best, make sure the pilot is clean. What size jet are you running in the carb? Have you cleaned the fuel strainer and have you installed an inline fuel filter? If your gas tank is dirty, even after cleaning the carb it could be dirty yet again due to gunk getting into it from a dirty gas tank.
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Re: 1994 honda elite SA50P Bogging down when throttle applie
bystarter?
86 Nifty Fifty (spree)
ZX disk brake
Kitico 120kmh speedo
AF18 ZX ported
Polini corsa
Malossi crank
CTmani
24mmOKO
40pilot118main
Scorpion pipe
8.44 to 1
Michelin s1
71.3mph
92 yz125, 94 crm250
ZX disk brake
Kitico 120kmh speedo
AF18 ZX ported
Polini corsa
Malossi crank
CTmani
24mmOKO
40pilot118main
Scorpion pipe
8.44 to 1
Michelin s1
71.3mph
92 yz125, 94 crm250
Re: 1994 honda elite SA50P Bogging down when throttle applie
Tell us that you have stock / unmodified air filter box on it with a new filter that has been lubed.
If it is not and your carb is indeed clean... it is possible that your bystarter is not closing properly (broken - open) and is flooding your bike.
I would also get a compression reading... it helps us ensure that everything in the cylinder is proper and that you are not chasing your tale.
And even if you put a new plug in it.... it could be bad, stuff a new NGK plug into her.
Once we get this thing running 25 MPH... we can help you destrict your 'P', its not too bad and will get up to 35 MPH. Just requires that you grind off a restriction washer in your exhaust, new SR oil pump (or some have zip-tied the current oil pump to full open), knock out a small plastic tab in the air box, and pulling off a washer assembly off the back of your variator. Cost $0 if you opt to keep current oil pump.
Please report back...
If it is not and your carb is indeed clean... it is possible that your bystarter is not closing properly (broken - open) and is flooding your bike.
I would also get a compression reading... it helps us ensure that everything in the cylinder is proper and that you are not chasing your tale.
And even if you put a new plug in it.... it could be bad, stuff a new NGK plug into her.
Once we get this thing running 25 MPH... we can help you destrict your 'P', its not too bad and will get up to 35 MPH. Just requires that you grind off a restriction washer in your exhaust, new SR oil pump (or some have zip-tied the current oil pump to full open), knock out a small plastic tab in the air box, and pulling off a washer assembly off the back of your variator. Cost $0 if you opt to keep current oil pump.
Please report back...
I'm more than happy to explain it to you. I'll even draw you a picture! But I can't understand it for you.
'86 Spree - Gone
'86 Spree - Gone
'85 Aero 50 - Gone
'94 Elite SR - Gone
'96 Elite SR - Gone
'01 Elite S
'85 Gyro - Its Alive
'86 Spree - Gone
'86 Spree - Gone
'85 Aero 50 - Gone
'94 Elite SR - Gone
'96 Elite SR - Gone
'01 Elite S
'85 Gyro - Its Alive
Re: 1994 honda elite SA50P Bogging down when throttle applie
I don't even think I have a filter on it now (I probably should).
Is there anyway to check and/or fix the bystarter? I'm assuming that is the auto choke.
I think it has an autolight plug in it now and it would be cheap enough to put an NGK in it.
I wish I had a compression tester. How much do those cost? I've used one at school but don't own one.
The 'sweet spot' on the throttle is a quarter throttle and anything past that slows you down.
I ordered a racing cdi for cheap money so hopefully that may be the problem.
Thank you so much for your time!
Is there anyway to check and/or fix the bystarter? I'm assuming that is the auto choke.
I think it has an autolight plug in it now and it would be cheap enough to put an NGK in it.
I wish I had a compression tester. How much do those cost? I've used one at school but don't own one.
The 'sweet spot' on the throttle is a quarter throttle and anything past that slows you down.
I ordered a racing cdi for cheap money so hopefully that may be the problem.
Thank you so much for your time!
Re: 1994 honda elite SA50P Bogging down when throttle applie
It starts right up so I'm not sure about the bystarter. Maybe it's stuck closed.
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Re: 1994 honda elite SA50P Bogging down when throttle applie
swimmingfree wrote:what color is the plug??
swimmingfree
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet