Spree has spark, compression, and gas. Still won't start.
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Re: Spree has spark, compression, and gas. Still won't start
Crank the throttle wide open and kick it over hard or use the eletric start for a few secounds then let go of the throttle if the sound changes drastically then your probably getting a good seal. If the sound dosnt change or is very very slight then you may have a seal issue or clogged pipe. If it sat for a while I wouldnt be dare inclined to say the pipe has a next or either bugs or something living it the pipe. Bake the pipe, pull the airbox and carb off and clean it all good if you havnt, if the airfilter needs replacing grab a new one, throw a new plug in and try again if the bike wont start after all that they go rent the compression tester and go from there. Make sure your switches and wires are all grounded or it wont start its just discharging the charge into the frame if not.
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Re: Spree has spark, compression, and gas. Still won't start
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"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Re: Spree has spark, compression, and gas. Still won't start
Final Update:
The Spree is still running great! Starts on the first kick every time. Working on painting it now but she'll be out on the road this weekend hopefully.
Quick breakdown of the issues & solutions.
1. Previous owner had Spree. Used it last summer but then it sat all year and the carb got gunked up so when he tried it this summer it wouldn't start.
2. Previous owner seemingly tries to clean the carb, and replaces a couple tubes. Ends up putting the float needle in the wrong hole... Tries to start it a bunch of time and dries out the spark plug gap which leads to decreased compression.
3. Previous owner still can't get the Spree started and sells it to me for cheap
4. I take it apart, put in clean oil and gas, and clean out the carb real good. Put the float needle back in it's proper place thinking that's for sure the answer. Test spark and it checks out. Get it started once for about 10 seconds and then can't start it after that.
5. Get the recommendation to squirt a little oil in the spark plug gap when I test compression. BAM! It starts!
Been running strong since then!
Thanks everyone for your wisdom and advice!
The Spree is still running great! Starts on the first kick every time. Working on painting it now but she'll be out on the road this weekend hopefully.
Quick breakdown of the issues & solutions.
1. Previous owner had Spree. Used it last summer but then it sat all year and the carb got gunked up so when he tried it this summer it wouldn't start.
2. Previous owner seemingly tries to clean the carb, and replaces a couple tubes. Ends up putting the float needle in the wrong hole... Tries to start it a bunch of time and dries out the spark plug gap which leads to decreased compression.
3. Previous owner still can't get the Spree started and sells it to me for cheap
4. I take it apart, put in clean oil and gas, and clean out the carb real good. Put the float needle back in it's proper place thinking that's for sure the answer. Test spark and it checks out. Get it started once for about 10 seconds and then can't start it after that.
5. Get the recommendation to squirt a little oil in the spark plug gap when I test compression. BAM! It starts!
Been running strong since then!
Thanks everyone for your wisdom and advice!
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Re: Spree has spark, compression, and gas. Still won't start
Great job Gary.
Pat is da Man with his great advice.
Thanks for letting us know. People will read this in the future and it is good to know the bike is still running great.
Taz
Pat is da Man with his great advice.
Thanks for letting us know. People will read this in the future and it is good to know the bike is still running great.
Taz
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Re: Spree has spark, compression, and gas. Still won't start
My theory is the previous owner probably used a crap ton of starting fluid trying to start the poor thing and it washed the bore dry of oil. It diddt seize it but it was so dry it had very little compression.
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84 Spree stock
84 Spree Dio AF18E MHR Cylinder Arrow Pipe 28mm OKO
80 Express, 47mm DR BBKit, Weak Ends Intake, Boyesen Dual stage reeds, 19mm Delorto carb, MLM pipe
79 Express
85 Aero 80 stock
84 elite 125 stock