A few problems and questions

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A few problems and questions

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Well I have a Nifty 50 which as some of you may remember seized up.

I have the piston kit and am ready to get the cylinder bored to fit the new 0.5mm oversize piston but I have a couple of questions:

No 1, I want to make sure I don't snap the piston rings when I stick them on, does anyone here have any tips for installing them? I am also slightly unsure which piston ring goes where i.e. which one is top and which one is bottom.

No 2, I was fiddling around with the scooter the other day just cleaning it, and I decided to look underneath the transmission case thing (not sure what it's called) and I saw what I assumed to be the centrifugal clutch cog. I played with this a little (carefully) but when I turn the rear wheel, I hear a sort of clicking sound coming from the rear axle. Does anyone know if this is normal? I can't remember if it always did this, I am just a bit worried because I am scared that in taking of the cover, I stuffed something up.

No 3, can I make my own top end gasket out of standard gasket paper?

Thanks all, I have recommended this website to heaps of people by the way :D
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Post by keithw »

#3, no the stock gasket is aluminum. A paper gasket will go away quickly. BTDT. If you want to make one use aluminum flashing material. Just order one or reuse the old one. They aren't spendy and they usually don't go bad.

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Go slow and be careful handling the rings, dont force anything and LUBE THE s*** out of the piston rings, bore, and rod bearings, this ensures that the bike wont "run dry" when first fired.
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For the wrist pin and rod bearings use assembly lube and they almost never have an issue then. There ae ring installing tools out there, but all I have ever use is the thumb nails on each hand to hook the ends of the ring and then stretch it only enough to fit over the piston.
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30 weight works fine.
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Kenny_McCormic wrote:30 weight works fine.
Actually if you are gonna use oil, use the same stuff you have in your oil tank. That's what most manufactures will recommend if you don't use assembly lube.
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I just use whatever is on the bench in a squirt bottle (usually mower oil).
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Post by vinnie »

Thanks guys,

Any ideas about the clicking noise from the rear axle?

Cheers
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