runs fine on stand, not on ground

tomije87 · Post by **tomije87** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:35 pm

Starts up fine, idles fine, runs full throttle fine on the stand. However, as soon as I put 'er down to ride it, it will either 1) stall or 2) hesitate for 5-10 seconds at very low RPMs before finally kicking it in gear. Same thing after coming to a stop. I've read around and saw a problem or two like this, but no one ever said how they fixed it. I just completely cleaned out the carb and air filter. What's next? I can't imagine it's fuel filter, b/c it idles fine, and once it does start going, she rides like no other. Just a pain getting it going.
Help!

Kenny_McCormic · Post by **Kenny_McCormic** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:38 pm

Model? check the two holes in the airbox lid and clean em out. Do a plug chop.

tomije87 · Post by **tomije87** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:46 pm

Sorry, '86 Spree

slaughter83 · Post by **slaughter83** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:59 pm

if it running lean you can always do what i did and put some electrical tape over the air-box intake holes, was the only fix to make mine run.

Bear45-70 · Post by **Bear45-70** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:44 pm

Turn the air screw out half a turn. It's too lean.

tru72 · Post by **tru72** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:33 am

sounds like a reed problem..

evilone · Post by **evilone** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:18 am

Look at your spark plug, if it's lean your plug could be trashed

HondaSE50 · Post by **HondaSE50** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:34 am

http://www.hondaspree.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6782

May be ?

dr.ona · Post by **dr.ona** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:53 am

I went through a similar situation with my 86 Spree....I ended up cleaning the carb 3 times before it started runnning correct. I think you need to rebuild the carb.

Robert

tomije87 · Post by **tomije87** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:01 am

I guess I'll try cleaning the carb and letting it sit over night. Also, I was attempting to ride it today, and as I was riding (just before it stalled for the 4th time) I noticed what sounded like shots of air coming out of the exhaust. Similar to an airsoft gun or something. I checked the plug this morning (didn't have time to do a full plug chop) and it looked pretty good, little dirty around the base, but I cleaned it all up and reinstalled it. I'll try getting a new plug and completely cleaning out the carb. Factory settings for the air screw for '86 is 1.5 turns out correct? Also, I have my needle on the 2nd notch. It was on the first notch, and I moved it to the 2nd thinking it might help, but it obviously didn't.

tomije87 · Post by **tomije87** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:17 pm

any tips on how to get the rubber seal back into the under side of the carb?

tomije87 · Post by **tomije87** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:03 pm

got everything back together. Carb completely cleaned out, rebuilt, new plug put in, same result. It just does not want to get up and go. What is next on the list?

adark248 · Post by **adark248** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:04 pm

This isn't really a permanent or perfect fix, but have you tried upping the idle?

My bike, fairly consistently, will idle fine for as long as you leave it, but if you jump on it'll bog down (although mine doesn't usually stall like yours). But if I up the idle speed so that the wheel is spinning a little and then ride it it'll sometimes clear up that problem.

Figuring if that has an effect might help diagnose the problem.

Bear45-70 · Post by **Bear45-70** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:10 pm

adark248 wrote:This isn't really a permanent or perfect fix, but have you tried upping the idle?

My bike, fairly consistently, will idle fine for as long as you leave it, but if you jump on it'll bog down (although mine doesn't usually stall like yours). But if I up the idle speed so that the wheel is spinning a little and then ride it it'll sometimes clear up that problem.

Figuring if that has an effect might help diagnose the problem.

That is an indication that the carb is too lean. Raising the idle just beats up on the clutch.

PimpinSpree · Post by **PimpinSpree** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:50 pm

it sounds like its either way too rich, or way too lean

either way you should be able to diagnose it looking at the plug