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Re: Oil pump/reservoir/mix ratio confusion

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:12 am
by GoodDerf
What if I run the oil mixture to low, that is what I am really worried about doing.

Re: Oil pump/reservoir/mix ratio confusion

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:23 am
by Bear45-70
Blue smoke is too much oil.

Re: Oil pump/reservoir/mix ratio confusion

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:26 am
by GoodDerf
Ok but what about too LITTLE oil.

Re: Oil pump/reservoir/mix ratio confusion

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:48 am
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:

Listen to The Bear, for wise is he. Don't run the scooter at all if the oil pump is present. It sits toward the very front of the crankcase, under the exhaust header. If it's there, it needs to be removed and its mounting bore plugged with pump plug available from VT Cycles and others. Better still would be to buy used Spree my oil tank strainer and line. :) Premixing is a pain if you're ever caught out on the road without a quart of GN-2.

Honda specifies a ratio of 32:1 right on the bottle of its Synthetic oil product. I haven't checked if there's a recommendation on the GN-2 bottle. Running smoky and deposits on your spark plug, which cause it to foul earlier, are the only immediate symptoms of excessive oil ratio. You'll know almost immediately if there's not enough oil. And you won't like it... :(

Better still would be to buy used Spree my oil tank strainer and line. :)
PM for details...

Re: Oil pump/reservoir/mix ratio confusion

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:14 pm
by evilone
Put that thing back to stock pump and tank. There has to be someone on here with the parts you need...unless you like to pre-mix (50:1 is fine for a Spree)

Re: Oil pump/reservoir/mix ratio confusion

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:41 pm
by GoodDerf
I actually don't mind pre-mixing everywhere that would be practical for me to go on my spree is well within the range of a tank.

Re: Oil pump/reservoir/mix ratio confusion

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:36 pm
by Bear45-70
Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:

Listen to The Bear, for wise is he. Don't run the scooter at all if the oil pump is present. It sits toward the very front of the crankcase, under the exhaust header. If it's there, it needs to be removed and its mounting bore plugged with pump plug available from VT Cycles and others. Better still would be to buy used Spree my oil tank strainer and line. :) Premixing is a pain if you're ever caught out on the road without a quart of GN-2.

Honda specifies a ratio of 32:1 right on the bottle of its Synthetic oil product. I haven't checked if there's a recommendation on the GN-2 bottle. Running smoky and deposits on your spark plug, which cause it to foul earlier, are the only immediate symptoms of excessive oil ratio. You'll know almost immediately if there's not enough oil. And you won't like it... :(

Better still would be to buy used Spree my oil tank strainer and line. :)
PM for details...
Jeez Wheelman, are you trying to tell him something? :D

Re: Oil pump/reservoir/mix ratio confusion

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:39 pm
by devenex
The stock injection system is equivalent to 50:1 mix, but most people who premix seem to do a more oil rich ratio.

Hope this help you figure out what you're going to do.

Re: Oil pump/reservoir/mix ratio confusion

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:53 pm
by Spreetard
Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:



Better still would be to buy used Spree my oil tank strainer and line. :)
PM for details...
wheelman, are you drunk??? that's the worst grammer i've ever seen you use :mrgreen:

Re: Oil pump/reservoir/mix ratio confusion

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:51 pm
by Kenny_McCormic
32:1 is fine for a stock bike, just watch jetting.
bigluelok wrote:too much oil you will see a cloud of smoke.
*, what do you think this is running on?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbFRclGo834
Back the screw out a little more and it spews smoke :D just like my spree(with factory oiler) revving on the stand.