2001 Elite S kick issue
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- paulpauly7
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Re: 2001 Elite S kick issue
ok then 60/40
good luck hope it goes well for you and you dont have any more problems
good luck hope it goes well for you and you dont have any more problems
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Re: 2001 Elite S kick issue
How exactly do you know it is 60/40 it will work?paulpauly7 wrote:ok then 60/40
good luck hope it goes well for you and you dont have any more problems
- Wheelman-111
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Re: 2001 Elite S kick issue
Greetings:
Lots and lots of nooks and crannies in a crankcase. When the engine runs, a little pool of oil forms in the bottom into which the flywheels dip. Their spinning flings and scatters the viscous oil under the piston and recirculates a trickle into the little holes that feed the bearings.
When a piston grenades, the aluminum metal and oxide powder can combine with the oil form a paste that packs itself into the aforementioned nooks and crannies. Repeated solvent washing appears to have dissolved all these deposits and you drained them away. Without a visual inspection, however, it is not possible to be positive that the solvent has reached them all. Maybe some is packed up on the "ceiling" or maybe there's a drip hole that is still completely plugged. You've done all you can with the slosh-and-drain method, and I like your idea of catching the drippage in cheesecloth to inspect for residuum. Thet-thar's some Science. (Pronounced "Sance"..)
Unless someone has been successful six or five times out of ten doing it, we're all just guessing. I wish you luck and would thank you if you post the outcome either way.
Lots and lots of nooks and crannies in a crankcase. When the engine runs, a little pool of oil forms in the bottom into which the flywheels dip. Their spinning flings and scatters the viscous oil under the piston and recirculates a trickle into the little holes that feed the bearings.
When a piston grenades, the aluminum metal and oxide powder can combine with the oil form a paste that packs itself into the aforementioned nooks and crannies. Repeated solvent washing appears to have dissolved all these deposits and you drained them away. Without a visual inspection, however, it is not possible to be positive that the solvent has reached them all. Maybe some is packed up on the "ceiling" or maybe there's a drip hole that is still completely plugged. You've done all you can with the slosh-and-drain method, and I like your idea of catching the drippage in cheesecloth to inspect for residuum. Thet-thar's some Science. (Pronounced "Sance"..)
Unless someone has been successful six or five times out of ten doing it, we're all just guessing. I wish you luck and would thank you if you post the outcome either way.
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Re: 2001 Elite S kick issue
Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:
Lots and lots of nooks and crannies in a crankcase. When the engine runs, a little pool of oil forms in the bottom into which the flywheels dip. Their spinning flings and scatters the viscous oil under the piston and recirculates a trickle into the little holes that feed the bearings.
When a piston grenades, the aluminum metal and oxide powder can combine with the oil form a paste that packs itself into the aforementioned nooks and crannies. Repeated solvent washing appears to have dissolved all these deposits and you drained them away. Without a visual inspection, however, it is not possible to be positive that the solvent has reached them all. Maybe some is packed up on the "ceiling" or maybe there's a drip hole that is still completely plugged. You've done all you can with the slosh-and-drain method, and I like your idea of catching the drippage in cheesecloth to inspect for residuum. Thet-thar's some Science. (Pronounced "Sance"..)
Unless someone has been successful six or five times out of ten doing it, we're all just guessing. I wish you luck and would thank you if you post the outcome either way.
I will most definitely post the result either way. I will wait three months to give final assesment. That should be long enough to call it a success I think. Obviously if it blows up before that I will give that result at the time. I have read here in this forum and at other forums of people having success doing this sort of method. I also read here people saying it does not work but none of those people have any personal experience to relate on it so it just sounds like supposition.
Re: 2001 Elite S kick issue
I received my piston and other parts today. I snapped one of the rings on the intall of the piston into the cylinder. Very frustrating. Now I have to order and wait again.
- paulpauly7
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Re: 2001 Elite S kick issue
how do people keep breaking rings they are so simple to install?
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Re: 2001 Elite S kick issue
If you could try and read a little more closely you would see it broke when trying to get the piston in the cylinder. I had installed the "easy" to install rings onto the piston just fine.paulpauly7 wrote:how do people keep breaking rings they are so simple to install?
How did I know you would respond to this thread with yet another insult. I guess you are just one of those types of people.
- paulpauly7
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Re: 2001 Elite S kick issue
fitting the piston in the bore is just as easy .I guess your just one of those people who do a job half a s s e d and end up spending twice as much
get a mechanic to finish the job it will be cheaper for your pocket
get a mechanic to finish the job it will be cheaper for your pocket
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8.44 to 1
Michelin s1
71.3mph
92 yz125, 94 crm250
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40pilot118main
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Re: 2001 Elite S kick issue
Like I said what an unfriendly forum this is. Very sad place.
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Re: 2001 Elite S kick issue
@ paulpauly STFU
You are not trying to be helpful at this point.
The bottom of the piston skirt chipped off, its not like the piston melted .
You are not trying to be helpful at this point.
The bottom of the piston skirt chipped off, its not like the piston melted .
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- paulpauly7
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Re: 2001 Elite S kick issue
what eva
You cant fix stupid with duck tape!!
You cant fix stupid with duck tape!!
86 Nifty Fifty (spree)
ZX disk brake
Kitico 120kmh speedo
AF18 ZX ported
Polini corsa
Malossi crank
CTmani
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40pilot118main
Scorpion pipe
8.44 to 1
Michelin s1
71.3mph
92 yz125, 94 crm250
ZX disk brake
Kitico 120kmh speedo
AF18 ZX ported
Polini corsa
Malossi crank
CTmani
24mmOKO
40pilot118main
Scorpion pipe
8.44 to 1
Michelin s1
71.3mph
92 yz125, 94 crm250