Honda Spree and Elite 50 Forums

has anyone blocked off the oil pump on thier spree and just ran premix?ive done this on my blaster with good results.didnt know how hard it would be on a spree

You mean like this:

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yep thats what i was lookin for.ive found that running my banshee and blaster over the years at 40:1 seems to be the sweat spot for2 strokes so im gonna run my spree the same and try to get it to quit bogging.my banshee boged horrible at 25:1 when i switched to 40:1 it ran great

pod4444 wrote:yep thats what i was lookin for.ive found that running my banshee and blaster over the years at 40:1 seems to be the sweat spot for2 strokes so im gonna run my spree the same and try to get it to quit bogging.my banshee boged horrible at 25:1 when i switched to 40:1 it ran great

You need to learn that changing oil ratios changes your jet requirements and adjust jetting accordingly. Rarely does the oil actually cause the bog, it is the change in fuel flowing thru the jet.

i never had to rejet on my blasters and banshees and ive owned several but thier 200cc and 350cc vs a 50cc.maybe you do have to rejet on the smaller motors.i myself have never had that problem just from changing ratios.both of my banshees would not run on 25:1 but would scream on 40:1,im still not sure why this is but imo i think too much oil can cause bogging.

dude if you up your jets on your banshee and run 25:1 you will surely haul more as then your small jet at 40:1

pod4444 wrote: but imo i think too much oil can cause bogging.

well, then you would be wrong

the banshee is premix from the get go and to much oil will cause bogging cause your flowing more oil then gas to the motor

idk if "bogging" would be the right word but would cause issues

pod4444 wrote:i never had to rejet on my blasters and banshees and ive owned several but thier 200cc and 350cc vs a 50cc.maybe you do have to rejet on the smaller motors.i myself have never had that problem just from changing ratios.both of my banshees would not run on 25:1 but would scream on 40:1,im still not sure why this is but imo i think too much oil can cause bogging.

Your frickin' blasters and banshees are not the little finicky scooter motors. Forget what worked with you big cc 2 strokes and start learning about scooters.

pod4444 wrote:i never had to rejet on my blasters and banshees and ive owned several but thier 200cc and 350cc vs a 50cc.maybe you do have to rejet on the smaller motors.i myself have never had that problem just from changing ratios.both of my banshees would not run on 25:1 but would scream on 40:1,im still not sure why this is but imo i think too much oil can cause bogging.

It is all about the tuning. A Banshee is about as far away from these as you can get. BTW, I have run 18:1 through a Banshee and it worked. Just have to tune it. Same thing on these little 50s or the big 900 LC triples, blcok off plate will work. A plug will maintain more crank case pressure.