reed valves or bad seals ???
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reed valves or bad seals ???
OK its still spree acts like timing off
took off the manifold and bolted the read valves to the case role over the moter with the starter and watch the reed valves.
they don't move munch (less then 1/23 ) witch made me think if they are not letting anuff of a mix it wood ack like the timeing was off and not enuff power to keep running..
i did find a lot of oil in there as well witch may of glued them down or is it becase of bad seals and how cood i test them
thank
swimmingfree
took off the manifold and bolted the read valves to the case role over the moter with the starter and watch the reed valves.
they don't move munch (less then 1/23 ) witch made me think if they are not letting anuff of a mix it wood ack like the timeing was off and not enuff power to keep running..
i did find a lot of oil in there as well witch may of glued them down or is it becase of bad seals and how cood i test them
thank
swimmingfree
Last edited by swimmingfree on Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
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se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
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Re: reed valves or bad seals ???
I have an extra spree intake, Not to far away
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Re: reed valves or bad seals ???
thank but no thanks
all I'm sure is this thing is making me mad..
I've never seen some thing that has brought me to my kneads so hard
and now its raining like mad here you may be getting up there soon
thank
swimmingfree
all I'm sure is this thing is making me mad..
I've never seen some thing that has brought me to my kneads so hard
and now its raining like mad here you may be getting up there soon
thank
swimmingfree
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
Re: reed valves or bad seals ???
You will get it figured out I'm sure, its hard to diagnose a problem over the internet lol I am still thinking it has something to do with that pipe and your bystarter
1986 Spree/ Eve af16 swapped 65cc Prodigy vari 8g 9:1 Ruima gears
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
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Re: reed valves or bad seals ???
Ok well up upgraded from the spree, So I have to spare engines if you need a part or what not
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1984 Porsche 944
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Re: reed valves or bad seals ???
1 there was 3 junk ones I'm try to make one that run
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
Re: reed valves or bad seals ???
you should let swimmingfree borrow a stock pipe and working bystarter SpreeMadness
1986 Spree/ Eve af16 swapped 65cc Prodigy vari 8g 9:1 Ruima gears
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
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Re: reed valves or bad seals ???
it is stock nowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
swimmingfree
swimmingfree
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
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Re: reed valves or bad seals ???
Haha what was on it before
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Re: reed valves or bad seals ???
that is a qt 50 not a spree
This
By freeswimming at 2011-06-17
and no you cant have it
now you can see what it is
By freeswimming at 2011-06-21
This
By freeswimming at 2011-06-17
and no you cant have it
now you can see what it is
By freeswimming at 2011-06-21
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
Re: reed valves or bad seals ???
did you put a stock muffler on the Spree?
1986 Spree/ Eve af16 swapped 65cc Prodigy vari 8g 9:1 Ruima gears
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
- swimmingfree
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Re: reed valves or bad seals ???
yes and the choke is on as well
and it stilldid not start
and it stilldid not start
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
Re: reed valves or bad seals ???
At cranking speeds, the reeds move very little. This is a very small motor. It isn't your reeds.
Bear 45/70
'83 Aero 80 X 3
'84 Aero 80 X 3
'85 Aero 80
'84 Aero 125 X 2
'84 Aero 125
'84 Aero 125 X 2
'85 Aero 50
'85 Spree
'83 Aero 80 X 3
'84 Aero 80 X 3
'85 Aero 80
'84 Aero 125 X 2
'84 Aero 125
'84 Aero 125 X 2
'85 Aero 50
'85 Spree
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Re: reed valves or bad seals ???
OK thanks bear
so ill bet its that the seal are good as well because the read vales move..
well its must be the crab or a week spark if i remember that if the spark is weak out side the motor when under pressure its worse and yes I've got a new plug..
sorry lost the internet last night big winds hall rain and yes it was not good
thanks
swimmingfree
so ill bet its that the seal are good as well because the read vales move..
well its must be the crab or a week spark if i remember that if the spark is weak out side the motor when under pressure its worse and yes I've got a new plug..
sorry lost the internet last night big winds hall rain and yes it was not good
thanks
swimmingfree
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
- swimmingfree
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- Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:28 pm
- Location: mich.
Re: reed valves or bad seals ???
Its Alive
did a compression test today got 120 which is 20 over what i started with so i change the head to one that had a bigger pocket and tested it again and got 94 ..
it started so i think that my tester is off so what i think was going on is that the spark was too weak for the compression to get the thing to start. Let it run for just a minute then had to turn it off, got too excited to do any more than just hearing it start.
i cant do much right now just too happy
thanks for all the help
swimmingfree
did a compression test today got 120 which is 20 over what i started with so i change the head to one that had a bigger pocket and tested it again and got 94 ..
it started so i think that my tester is off so what i think was going on is that the spark was too weak for the compression to get the thing to start. Let it run for just a minute then had to turn it off, got too excited to do any more than just hearing it start.
i cant do much right now just too happy
thanks for all the help
swimmingfree
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet