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sputter/stall

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:29 pm
by jlynn433
Ok so i just fixed a vacuum leak on the bottom of the intake mani where it meets the other gasket for the reeds. I had it running all the way lean before this to accomodate for the vacuum leak, but now it wont run that way because it is fixed. However, i put the carburetor back to stock settings, that didnt work so i tried adjusting it. I got it to a point where i can get it to like 25, but at wot it will just bog lightly (go to about 26-27 and just be loud as * & sound like it wants to bog and stall) i can upload a video and post a link if needed

Re: sputter/stall

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:37 pm
by dun rite
try to keep your posts in one spot. just replied to this in your other post, although it didn't explain it as well as this one. sounds like the main jet is dirty or to small due to the exhaust derestriction. You are doing all this with the airbox and filter in place?

Re: sputter/stall

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:48 pm
by jlynn433
dun rite wrote:try to keep your posts in one spot. just replied to this in your other post, although it didn't explain it as well as this one. sounds like the main jet is dirty or to small due to the exhaust derestriction. You are doing all this with the airbox and filter in place?
yeah the airbox is attatched do you thing i need a bigger main? :?:

Re: sputter/stall

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 1:28 pm
by dun rite
I'm not sure exactly if all you did was open the exhaust and not the air filter as well. Did all the happen after you drilled out the exhaust.
the air, fuel & exhaust flow in and out of the engine is designed to a balance by honda, by opening one and not the other would say that it is now out of balance. If you open the air box restriction then you definately need to rejet, From what I remember reading somewhere on this forum, by drilling the baffles you will have a loss of higher rpm. Not sure how you could fix that easily.

Re: sputter/stall

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:08 pm
by jlynn433
dun rite wrote:I'm not sure exactly if all you did was open the exhaust and not the air filter as well. Did all the happen after you drilled out the exhaust.
the air, fuel & exhaust flow in and out of the engine is designed to a balance by honda, by opening one and not the other would say that it is now out of balance. If you open the air box restriction then you definately need to rejet, From what I remember reading somewhere on this forum, by drilling the baffles you will have a loss of higher rpm. Not sure how you could fix that easily.
i just need my 35-40 mph back that i got with the derestricted muffler and variator because im getting a corsa with a performance variator and a v8 typhoon pipe

Re: sputter/stall

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:07 pm
by odinxxix
i didnt see other post, so is this an elite? if so and you derestricted everything(vari,exhaust and airbox) did you up jet any? my elite runs with a 95 jet, but weird thing is my neighbor did all the same mods to his as i did and his wont run on 95 but on a 78. your restricted elite still has the 65 jet in it it will run to lean and hurt the motor. :nervous:

Re: sputter/stall

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:49 pm
by jlynn433
odinxxix wrote:i didnt see other post, so is this an elite? if so and you derestricted everything(vari,exhaust and airbox) did you up jet any? my elite runs with a 95 jet, but weird thing is my neighbor did all the same mods to his as i did and his wont run on 95 but on a 78. your restricted elite still has the 65 jet in it it will run to lean and hurt the motor. :nervous:
I didnt touch the airbox... how would you derestrict it?

Re: sputter/stall

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:32 pm
by jlynn433
and i didnt rejet it but im looking at a kit on ebay that comes with an 85,90,95,100,105,and 110 so i have some options to see wht works best. do you think its worth getting?

Re: sputter/stall

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:25 pm
by dun rite
your bike is basically stock? all you have done is drilled the exhaust and removed variator plate?

a stock unrestricted elite uses a #78 main jet. the restricted P model used a #68.

when you look at the air filter cover, at the top you will see where the air flows through. right next to it there is another chamber identical to the open one, this one you open as well. just be sure to rejet before running.

Re: sputter/stall

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:04 am
by allisswell
dun rite wrote:your bike is basically stock? all you have done is drilled the exhaust and removed variator plate?

a stock unrestricted elite uses a #78 main jet. the restricted P model used a #68.

when you look at the air filter cover, at the top you will see where the air flows through. right next to it there is another chamber identical to the open one, this one you open as well. just be sure to rejet before running.
I did this exactly as described by same person and worked perfect...here
http://www.hondaspree.net/phpBB3/viewto ... =1&t=19125

Re: sputter/stall

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:54 pm
by jlynn433
allisswell wrote:
dun rite wrote:your bike is basically stock? all you have done is drilled the exhaust and removed variator plate?

a stock unrestricted elite uses a #78 main jet. the restricted P model used a #68.

when you look at the air filter cover, at the top you will see where the air flows through. right next to it there is another chamber identical to the open one, this one you open as well. just be sure to rejet before running.
I did this exactly as described by same person and worked perfect...here
http://www.hondaspree.net/phpBB3/viewto ... =1&t=19125
i just ordered a set of 6 diff jets by daytona. it includes an 85,90,95,100,105,and 110. i have the unrestricted model that comes with the 78 stock so if i need the 85, it wont be too big of a jump and theres bigger if i need them as well

Re: sputter/stall

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:21 pm
by dun rite
you have two posts going in different sections. Are they the same bike? i'm confused, you said you drilled out exhaust restriction and removed variator plate. but now you say you have the unrestricted model. two different bikes?????????

Re: sputter/stall

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:43 pm
by jlynn433
dun rite wrote:you have two posts going in different sections. Are they the same bike? i'm confused, you said you drilled out exhaust restriction and removed variator plate. but now you say you have the unrestricted model. two different bikes?????????
sorry they are the same bike (2000 Honda Elite S) its just that i put more of a detailed explanation on this forum. lets stick to this one for performance issues and the other for the upgrade. srry bout that

Re: sputter/stall

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:12 pm
by jlynn433
if you read and watched the video on my other post about the stall, reply here. otherwise ill show you guys a vid of the problem im having. please help me guys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX5UVpDWdKY

Re: sputter/stall

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:24 pm
by pboost
I seen your vid i also live in macomb, I have a few extra jets if you need to try any i would be glad to help ya out. I have 85-100. Shoot me a text or call me 586 738 8859

Ryan