pinion not working on spree

[maloman001]

I have 84 spree the pinion will not pop out try 2 pinion dose the same thing wont crank help

[eliteguy50]

Is your battery fully charged?

[maloman001]

Yes it is don't know what to do

[swimmingfree]

sometimes photo help.. we use imageshack to post photo..work it by hand with some wd40 till it moves freely
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[maloman001]

the pinion works fine by hand . but when i put it all back and try to start it it just spins dose not pop out to crank motor. could it be spining the wrong way

[Wheelman-111]

Greetings:

Hmmm, spinning the wrong way? Could a previous owner swapped starters with a model whose crank spins the other way? Might be worth reversing the wires as a test.

[Bear45-70]

That's what came to mind for me to Wheelman.

[maloman001]

how do you do that reversing the wires as a test.can you tell me

[paulpauly7]

reverse the wires it isnt that hard

[Bear45-70]

how do you do that reversing the wires as a test.can you tell me

You can't reverse the wires, the frame is always ground. You need a known correct starter.

[maloman001]

The motor is moraine gnu-620. Am-10. That is on it do you switch the wire on tha starter

[Bear45-70]

The motor is moraine gnu-620. Am-10. That is on it do you switch the wire on tha starter

Read my lips, the frame is ground just like the engine frame is ground. You can NOT switch the wires.

[Trafficjamz]

the pinion works fine by hand . but when i put it all back and try to start it it just spins dose not pop out to crank motor. could it be spining the wrong way

Maybe you just have two worn out pinion gears.

Honda did make different pinion gears for different scooters.

Which direction pops it out? clockwise or counter clockwise?


Wiring it backwards in NOT an option.

[mousewheels]

Sprees and SB50's have starters which rotate in reverse direction to variated AF05's and AF16's. Their engines rotate in a different direction too

Spree drive end mounting holes different spacing as a mechanical key. Therefore getting a reversed starter into a Spree takes more than a simple swap in from a different model.

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If someone *had to* rotation change electrically, is looks feasible. It requires rework inside the starter.

There's a brush wire to the terminal, and a brush wire which screws to the case.
1) Take the lead to the case and move it to the other brush holder screw. Either screw works as a ground point.
2) Move this brush to the top brush holder.
3) Cut and extend the other brush lead and move the brush to the bottom holder.

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[eliteguy50]

So, in theory, I could rewire the e-starter to make reverse for a triked scooter and then use the kickstart for forward, Great info Mousewheels.