help needed on a spree
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help needed on a spree
I have an 85 Spree that will not run.
130 psi compression.
cleaned carb...tiny * o light can be seen.
barbecued exhaust and replaced washer with new.
installed new spark plug and it is getting spark.
poured a little pre-mix in cylinder...turns over...no fire.
pulled left brake handle.
petcock is working.
What the heck am i missing?
130 psi compression.
cleaned carb...tiny * o light can be seen.
barbecued exhaust and replaced washer with new.
installed new spark plug and it is getting spark.
poured a little pre-mix in cylinder...turns over...no fire.
pulled left brake handle.
petcock is working.
What the heck am i missing?
2001 Honda Elite
1995 Yamaha Jog
1994 Yamaha Axis
I can't believe
that cop put me
in the backseat
when I clearly
called shotgun.
1995 Yamaha Jog
1994 Yamaha Axis
I can't believe
that cop put me
in the backseat
when I clearly
called shotgun.
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Re: help needed on a spree
bring the spark down to 24 ...is the air flter on????
swimmingfree
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se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
Re: help needed on a spree
Sorry, what do you mean by that?swimmingfree wrote:bring the spark down to 24
Yes sir. All the clips that hold the cover on are missing/damaged but the screw that holds the cover on is in place and tight.swimmingfree wrote:is the air flter on????
I would think that would be ok? Air filter element is brand new.
This thing just turns over with NO attempt to even sputter and try to start. Acts the same as not having the spark plug wire connected....just turns over.
2001 Honda Elite
1995 Yamaha Jog
1994 Yamaha Axis
I can't believe
that cop put me
in the backseat
when I clearly
called shotgun.
1995 Yamaha Jog
1994 Yamaha Axis
I can't believe
that cop put me
in the backseat
when I clearly
called shotgun.
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Re: help needed on a spree
the higher the compression the hard it is for the spark to jumg so if the gap is 0.024 its got a better chanch of jumping ..
dose the plug get wet??? if you want you can hand choker it
By freeswimming at 2012-03-21
swimmingfree
dose the plug get wet??? if you want you can hand choker it
By freeswimming at 2012-03-21
swimmingfree
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
Re: help needed on a spree
When i ground the plug on the cylinder and turn it over the spark looks fine.swimmingfree wrote:the higher the compression the hard it is for the spark to jumg so if the gap is 0.024 its got a better chanch of jumping
Yes, another reason the plug is new...i felt it might have been fouled. Same condition with new plugswimmingfree wrote:the higher the compression the hard it is for the spark to jumg so if the gap is 0.024 its got a better chanch of jumping ..
dose the plug get wet???
Tried that too.swimmingfree wrote:if you want you can hand choker it
Am i crazy? Shouldn't a little pre-mix in the plug hole still "fire" somewhat even if there are problems downstream?
2001 Honda Elite
1995 Yamaha Jog
1994 Yamaha Axis
I can't believe
that cop put me
in the backseat
when I clearly
called shotgun.
1995 Yamaha Jog
1994 Yamaha Axis
I can't believe
that cop put me
in the backseat
when I clearly
called shotgun.
Re: help needed on a spree
One other thing...the carb bowl gasket is cracked where the pilot tube goes into the carb bowl (not missing a chunk or anything just cracked). I really doubt that would cause this concern. Anyone have a good bowl gasket they don't need?
2001 Honda Elite
1995 Yamaha Jog
1994 Yamaha Axis
I can't believe
that cop put me
in the backseat
when I clearly
called shotgun.
1995 Yamaha Jog
1994 Yamaha Axis
I can't believe
that cop put me
in the backseat
when I clearly
called shotgun.
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Re: help needed on a spree
Had a scooter like that - good spark, good compression. The p/o had the air filter come apart and wedge the reeds open.Am i crazy? Shouldn't a little pre-mix in the plug hole still "fire" somewhat even if there are problems downstream?
Re: help needed on a spree
Any excess oil in the crank case?
Re: help needed on a spree
That's what i planned on checking next, we'll see.mousewheels wrote:Had a scooter like that - good spark, good compression. The p/o had the air filter come apart and wedge the reeds open.
Without taking the cylinder off i'd say no. It turns over easy and no oil comes out of spark plug hole when turning it over.ragtop89 wrote:Any excess oil in the crank case?
2001 Honda Elite
1995 Yamaha Jog
1994 Yamaha Axis
I can't believe
that cop put me
in the backseat
when I clearly
called shotgun.
1995 Yamaha Jog
1994 Yamaha Axis
I can't believe
that cop put me
in the backseat
when I clearly
called shotgun.
Re: help needed on a spree
check your reeds and intake. if those are all good then maybe test your compression tester lol
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Re: help needed on a spree
His compression tester is good, because I got the same reading on mine (note: the Spree referred to here is mine. Evilone is just working on it for me).
Re: help needed on a spree
130 psi with broken ring and loose cylinder head bolts.
I was turning motor over by hand using the kicker and seen some bubbles around the head gasket. Found head was loose and i was curious if it had a head gasket or not...it did. Since it was apart i decided to check the rings, i was already there.
Looks like it will need a cylinder, piston, and rings. By the way, reeds are ok.
thebook92...pm me and we'll talk about where to go from here.
I was turning motor over by hand using the kicker and seen some bubbles around the head gasket. Found head was loose and i was curious if it had a head gasket or not...it did. Since it was apart i decided to check the rings, i was already there.
Looks like it will need a cylinder, piston, and rings. By the way, reeds are ok.
thebook92...pm me and we'll talk about where to go from here.
2001 Honda Elite
1995 Yamaha Jog
1994 Yamaha Axis
I can't believe
that cop put me
in the backseat
when I clearly
called shotgun.
1995 Yamaha Jog
1994 Yamaha Axis
I can't believe
that cop put me
in the backseat
when I clearly
called shotgun.
- swimmingfree
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Re: help needed on a spree
you had 130 on a compression test with that mess up piston and jug....
swimmingfree
swimmingfree
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
Re: help needed on a spree
Yes
I got 130 on my tester
thebook92 got 130 on his tester
I got 130 on my tester
thebook92 got 130 on his tester
2001 Honda Elite
1995 Yamaha Jog
1994 Yamaha Axis
I can't believe
that cop put me
in the backseat
when I clearly
called shotgun.
1995 Yamaha Jog
1994 Yamaha Axis
I can't believe
that cop put me
in the backseat
when I clearly
called shotgun.