1985 Spree... Timing issue?
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1985 Spree... Timing issue?
Okay. See the video to see what I'm talking about. If anyone can help me solve this problem, it would be greatly appreciated. I have no idea what's wrong.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1pGBdf6BszAE
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Re: 1985 Spree... Timing issue?
Spark trigger coil alignment is preset, and has no adjustment. If the spark is off in timing a likely suspect is the flywheel to crank timing is off. A sheared or missing key can allow large timing mis-alignment from stock. Pull the flywheel and inspect, BTW good vid of the issue
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Re: 1985 Spree... Timing issue?
the timing being off would not cause it to crank like that.
is there less resistance to ground at the starter motor when the kill switch is on?
is there less resistance to ground at the starter motor when the kill switch is on?
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Re: 1985 Spree... Timing issue?
Okay, so... Remove the fan and the metal thing behind it? I'm still a . Jeez, I have only had the bike for two weeks, an oil pump and who knows what now...mousewheels wrote:Spark trigger coil alignment is preset, and has no adjustment. If the spark is off in timing a likely suspect is the flywheel to crank timing is off. A sheared or missing key can allow large timing mis-alignment from stock. Pull the flywheel and inspect, BTW good vid of the issue
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Red 87 Spree... Ended up buying the same one mentioned below.
I started riding my uncle's 87 Spree at the drag strip when I was 8...
It's easier to stop caring three years ago than it is to fix it in present time.
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I started riding my uncle's 87 Spree at the drag strip when I was 8...
It's easier to stop caring three years ago than it is to fix it in present time.
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Re: 1985 Spree... Timing issue?
Trafficjamz wrote:the timing being off would not cause it to crank like that.
is there less resistance to ground at the starter motor when the kill switch is on?
How would I check for that? I have a multimeter...
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Re: 1985 Spree... Timing issue?
87spree70superbee wrote:Trafficjamz wrote:the timing being off would not cause it to crank like that.
is there less resistance to ground at the starter motor when the kill switch is on?
How would I check for that? I have a multimeter...
put the Multimeter setting on Ohms.
Put one lead on the batteries' negitive terminal and on on the starter motors' green wire.
It should read zero (or close to it) Flip the run/kill switch and repeat the test.
Dont try to remove the flywheel with out the proper tool.
This is not a timing issue.
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Re: 1985 Spree... Timing issue?
did you or some one ever tack off the fly wheel???? it the thing with the fan on it..
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Re: 1985 Spree... Timing issue?
Trafficjamz wrote:87spree70superbee wrote:Trafficjamz wrote:the timing being off would not cause it to crank like that.
is there less resistance to ground at the starter motor when the kill switch is on?
How would I check for that? I have a multimeter...
put the Multimeter setting on Ohms.
Put one lead on the batteries' negitive terminal and on on the starter motors' green wire.
It should read zero (or close to it) Flip the run/kill switch and repeat the test.
Dont try to remove the flywheel with out the proper tool.
This is not a timing issue.
Alright. I'll try it later. Thanks for the help, and don't worry, I won't pull the flywheel.
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I started riding my uncle's 87 Spree at the drag strip when I was 8...
It's easier to stop caring three years ago than it is to fix it in present time.
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I started riding my uncle's 87 Spree at the drag strip when I was 8...
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Re: 1985 Spree... Timing issue?
I pulled the fan off when I cleaned everything, never pulled the flywheel.swimmingfree wrote:did you or some one ever tack off the fly wheel???? it the thing with the fan on it..
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Red 87 Spree... Ended up buying the same one mentioned below.
I started riding my uncle's 87 Spree at the drag strip when I was 8...
It's easier to stop caring three years ago than it is to fix it in present time.
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I started riding my uncle's 87 Spree at the drag strip when I was 8...
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Re: 1985 Spree... Timing issue?
im not saying that the other are wrong at all but there is a key way in the crank and fly wheel if its not in there it may be what going on ..
have you ever had it running????
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have you ever had it running????
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SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
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Re: 1985 Spree... Timing issue?
Yeah, I had it running, it actually ran when I bought it. Ran pretty well until last week. Then this started up. I'm going to save the flywheel pulling for last. I'll try everything else first, I don't want to f- with the flywheel, lolswimmingfree wrote:im not saying that the other are wrong at all but there is a key way in the crank and fly wheel if its not in there it may be what going on ..
have you ever had it running????
swimmingfree
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Red 87 Spree... Ended up buying the same one mentioned below.
I started riding my uncle's 87 Spree at the drag strip when I was 8...
It's easier to stop caring three years ago than it is to fix it in present time.
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Re: 1985 Spree... Timing issue?
because it was running i wood try what the other said as well..
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looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
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SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
Re: 1985 Spree... Timing issue?
That is a classic timing issue. I'm with mouse, flywheel key would be my first guess and if that it good, a bad CDI could cause this.
Definitely NOT a starter issue,
Definitely NOT a starter issue,
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Re: 1985 Spree... Timing issue?
Def the way to go - rule out anything easy and starter ground is easy to check out.Yeah, I had it running, it actually ran when I bought it. Ran pretty well until last week. Then this started up. I'm going to save the flywheel pulling for last. I'll try everything else first, I don't want to f- with the flywheel, lol
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Re: 1985 Spree... Timing issue?
Bear45-70 wrote:That is a classic timing issue. I'm with mouse, flywheel key would be my first guess and if that it good, a bad CDI could cause this.
Definitely NOT a starter issue,
why would a bent flywheel key make it stumble like that?
And why would having the kill switch on or off make a difference?
This is a two stroke , so valves are not opening or closing.
why would this not be a starter issue?
A bad ground to the starter would make it stumble
The kill switch being on could be making a better path to ground.
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