honda Spree Carb to intake manifold bolt threads?

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honda Spree Carb to intake manifold bolt threads?

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Anyone have any ideas on how to rethread carb to intake safely? On a spree , I have 3 different carbs and all have 1 or both bolt holes stripped, cant get air tight seal between carb and intake,having trouble getting it to run, found this as the only obvious problem, any help appreciated. Thanks, Mick
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Moparmick wrote:Anyone have any ideas on how to rethread carb to intake safely? On a spree , I have 3 different carbs and all have 1 or both bolt holes stripped, cant get air tight seal between carb and intake,having trouble getting it to run, found this as the only obvious problem, any help appreciated. Thanks, Mick

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Re: honda Spree Carb to intake manifold bolt threads?

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Helicoil, Timesert or other repair is a good repair, but may cost a bit if the owner has to buy the set.

On the Spree, if threads on the bystarter side are stripped, a 'jam nut' is an easy fix, but requires care with bolt length. The bolt must not come in contact with the bystarter side housing. Add washers or grind as required.

-- Hazard --
When the bolt hits the housing, it can/will distort the bore the bystarter air valve (outer brass collar) has a close slide fit with. Distortion of the carb body freezes up the bystarter .

-- Alternate low cost repair --
Some have drillled/tapped for 1/4 x 20 threads.

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A screwdriver will hold the nut if a thin 10mm wrench is not handy.
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in my expierence the heli coil is really hard to use on the carb because the thread holes arent deep enough the nut works the best..
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tap it out to a m7 and get new bolts
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paulpauly7 wrote:tap it out to a m7 and get new bolts
you risk cracking the carb and then you will have to get a new one
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ive done lots i suppose if your a meathead and cant use a tap correctly then i suppose that would be a problem
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paulpauly7 wrote:ive done lots i suppose if your a meathead and cant use a tap correctly then i suppose that would be a problem
is m7 jus next size up?
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yes the stock bolts are m6
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paulpauly7 wrote:yes the stock bolts are m6
so wouldnt that require drilling up for the m7 too fit?
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just stick to your bolts :peace:
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jam nut works well but number 7 drill bit and 1/4-20 tap works to.... m7 isnt to common in the states but should work
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fastplastic wrote:jam nut works well but number 7 drill bit and 1/4-20 tap works to.... m7 isnt to common in the states but should work
good too know i might do this myself someday
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Re: honda Spree Carb to intake manifold bolt threads?

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Moparmick wrote:Anyone have any ideas on how to rethread carb to intake safely? On a spree , I have 3 different carbs and all have 1 or both bolt holes stripped, cant get air tight seal between carb and intake,having trouble getting it to run, found this as the only obvious problem, any help appreciated. Thanks, Mick
I got a m6 (stock bolt size) helicoil kit from autozone for $28. you just need a drill and a 1/4" drill bit. or send the carbs to me for $2 a hole + shipping
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