Seized!!
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Seized!!
I just bought a 1985 Spree today for $500. Ran great til I went downhill and over-revved the engine and it seized.
Upon taking the engine apart I found out there was almost no oil on the piston, crank, bearings, etc. It was literally dry. I wished I would of drained what gas was in there and added some fresh mix!!
Now, I'm thinking big bore kit.
Anyone have any recommendations for a quality BBK?
I want to do 45+ mph and be able to cruise at 40 mph with ease. I saw the sell taller gearing.
Do I need a flywheel puller to remove the flywheel? I got the nut off but cant get the flywheel off.
Any have anything to add?
Upon taking the engine apart I found out there was almost no oil on the piston, crank, bearings, etc. It was literally dry. I wished I would of drained what gas was in there and added some fresh mix!!
Now, I'm thinking big bore kit.
Anyone have any recommendations for a quality BBK?
I want to do 45+ mph and be able to cruise at 40 mph with ease. I saw the sell taller gearing.
Do I need a flywheel puller to remove the flywheel? I got the nut off but cant get the flywheel off.
Any have anything to add?
Re: Seized!!
Your goal of 45 mph is going to be really really really really difficult to achieve on the stock spree motor. Even with a bbk and carb and all that stuff people seem to only get about 35 mph. Your best bet would be to swap the motor for an af16
- paulpauly7
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Re: Seized!!
I think im alowed in this situation to say
Dude Swap In A Dio !!!!
Dude Swap In A Dio !!!!
86 Nifty Fifty (spree)
ZX disk brake
Kitico 120kmh speedo
AF18 ZX ported
Polini corsa
Malossi crank
CTmani
24mmOKO
40pilot118main
Scorpion pipe
8.44 to 1
Michelin s1
71.3mph
92 yz125, 94 crm250
ZX disk brake
Kitico 120kmh speedo
AF18 ZX ported
Polini corsa
Malossi crank
CTmani
24mmOKO
40pilot118main
Scorpion pipe
8.44 to 1
Michelin s1
71.3mph
92 yz125, 94 crm250
Re: Seized!!
Is the AF16 a direct drop in?
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My crank feels shot, basically everything is done. I think my best bet is either a used drop in motor or an maybe a AF16.
- paulpauly7
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Re: Seized!!
af16 is what you want
86 Nifty Fifty (spree)
ZX disk brake
Kitico 120kmh speedo
AF18 ZX ported
Polini corsa
Malossi crank
CTmani
24mmOKO
40pilot118main
Scorpion pipe
8.44 to 1
Michelin s1
71.3mph
92 yz125, 94 crm250
ZX disk brake
Kitico 120kmh speedo
AF18 ZX ported
Polini corsa
Malossi crank
CTmani
24mmOKO
40pilot118main
Scorpion pipe
8.44 to 1
Michelin s1
71.3mph
92 yz125, 94 crm250
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Re: Seized!!
I'm not sure how easy the af16 swap is, but it seems the variated af05e swap is pretty straight forward as long as you get your hands on a motor mount from an 87 se50. An af05e would definitely suit your speed needs with some slight modification. An af16 unrestricted should be able to accomplish those speeds as is.
- Wheelman-111
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Re: Seized!!
Greetings:
There is a quick, cheap and dirty way to pull the flywheel if the engine is over a workbench over a pillow.
Reinstall the nut 3 turns on, so the crank doesn't protrude. Hold the engine by the flywheel, and give the nut (on the crank end) a couple sharp raps with a 1-lb hammer. The flywheel will pull off and the nut hopefully will catch it before the engine slams into the workbench. Use the puller if you can; it's cheap and risk-free.
There is a quick, cheap and dirty way to pull the flywheel if the engine is over a workbench over a pillow.
Reinstall the nut 3 turns on, so the crank doesn't protrude. Hold the engine by the flywheel, and give the nut (on the crank end) a couple sharp raps with a 1-lb hammer. The flywheel will pull off and the nut hopefully will catch it before the engine slams into the workbench. Use the puller if you can; it's cheap and risk-free.
Wheelman-111
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"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Re: Seized!!
a spree will never go 45 mph
an af05e is not a direct drop in for the spree ( neither is the af16e)
all af05e engine mounts are virtually the same plus or minus some protrusion that slides into the frame ( completely optional) so dont worry about 87 se50 mounts only
you need to decide how much money you want to spend now because if you do it as you go you will spend too much and lose sight of what your other options were.
an af05e is not a direct drop in for the spree ( neither is the af16e)
all af05e engine mounts are virtually the same plus or minus some protrusion that slides into the frame ( completely optional) so dont worry about 87 se50 mounts only
you need to decide how much money you want to spend now because if you do it as you go you will spend too much and lose sight of what your other options were.
84 Aero af05e Ruckus variator, rear metro wheel, Leovince pipe ( work in process... porting , nh80 reeds intake carb)
Re: Seized!!
how hard is it install an af16 af05e? They are super hard to find as well, I think either a donor bike or motor.
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ive never done the swap but have both bikes in front of me. you would just need to make a new bracker. ither with welding skills or bolts, nuts, and washers.
ill bet you could just ask someone on this fourm to make you a bracket and they would. people probably have them lieing around its a common thing to ditch a spree motor.
HARD TO FIND
af16/ af18 found in 94-01 elites / dio
NOT HARD TO FIND
af05e 85-87 aeros 87-93 elites
there is even a af05e in our forsale section right now for $200 shipped. ill bet you can talk him down a little too, or get him to throw in some extra parts for your swap
ill bet you could just ask someone on this fourm to make you a bracket and they would. people probably have them lieing around its a common thing to ditch a spree motor.
HARD TO FIND
af16/ af18 found in 94-01 elites / dio
NOT HARD TO FIND
af05e 85-87 aeros 87-93 elites
there is even a af05e in our forsale section right now for $200 shipped. ill bet you can talk him down a little too, or get him to throw in some extra parts for your swap
84 Aero af05e Ruckus variator, rear metro wheel, Leovince pipe ( work in process... porting , nh80 reeds intake carb)
Re: Seized!!
Just Pmed him about the engine.
Anyone have a spare stock engine Fs?
Anyone have a spare stock engine Fs?
- swimmingfree
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Re: Seized!!
you have to make a new motor mount and move the shock and get a longer brake cable the wires just color mach them..
swimmingfree
swimmingfree
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
Re: Seized!!
rbym the reason i gave you the "wink" was because i'm the one selling the motor lol i just text you
84 Aero af05e Ruckus variator, rear metro wheel, Leovince pipe ( work in process... porting , nh80 reeds intake carb)
Re: Seized!!
swimingfree: would the aero50 shock work? how about an aero50 brake cable?
84 Aero af05e Ruckus variator, rear metro wheel, Leovince pipe ( work in process... porting , nh80 reeds intake carb)