1887 Honda spree wont start!!!
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1887 Honda spree wont start!!!
I recently bought a 1987 honda spree for cheap. When I bought it, it was like -20 degrees outside so there was no hope in starting it there but the old man said it started fine in the fall. I brought it home, threw it in my basement and I haven't gotten it to start yet. I have read this forum and wikispreedia and I cant find an answer. It has new gas in it, new air filter, new spark plug, and I cleaned out the carb. STILL NO FIRE! Help me out please!
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Re: 1887 Honda spree wont start!!!
Is the fuel vacuum valve flowing fuel with vacuum applied? Pull the spark plug out leaving it connected, turn over the engine. Do you see a spark?
Make sure the engine kill switch is in the run position. One of the brake levers must be pulled in to close the ignition circuit when starting.
Make sure the engine kill switch is in the run position. One of the brake levers must be pulled in to close the ignition circuit when starting.
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Re: 1887 Honda spree wont start!!!
Yes the spark plug gives spark and yes its in run position with the break held. The engine turns over just no fire. How do I check the vacuum problem?
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Re: 1887 Honda spree wont start!!!
pull the pluig put a fue drops of gas down the hole and thy that....
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se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
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Re: 1887 Honda spree wont start!!!
Disconnect the vacuum hose and fuel hose at the carb ends. Put the end of the fuel hose in a cup. Suck on the end of the vacuum hose. Fuel should flow when you apply vacuum on the vacuum line. If fuel doesn't flow the vacuum valve on the bottom of the fuel tank may be bad OR... The fuel filter/fuel line may be blocked.
2000 Suzuki Hayabusa 1300cc
1986 Honda FrankenSpree 49cc
Goped Trailripper 46cc
Bladez Moby 49cc
1986 Honda FrankenSpree 49cc
Goped Trailripper 46cc
Bladez Moby 49cc
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Re: 1887 Honda spree wont start!!!
Ok so I sucked on the vacuum hose and gas started to run out of the other hose into a bucket. It was a solid flow so I don't think that is a problem. Also I put a few drops of gas in the plug hole and still nothing. Like I said the spark plug is brand new and it has spark.
Re: 1887 Honda spree wont start!!!
Do Not twist the throttle while you are cranking over the engine.
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Re: 1887 Honda spree wont start!!!
if you have spark and fuel then check compression with a calibrated tester.
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Re: 1887 Honda spree wont start!!!
i put a little more gas in the plug hole and it fired for a couple seconds. Should I clean the carb again?
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Re: 1887 Honda spree wont start!!!
Is the air screw on the carb adjusted properly? Seems like fuel is not flowing through the carb. Clean it again, paying particular attention to the idle circuit. Is the bystarter good?
2000 Suzuki Hayabusa 1300cc
1986 Honda FrankenSpree 49cc
Goped Trailripper 46cc
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Goped Trailripper 46cc
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Re: 1887 Honda spree wont start!!!
do the trick a fue time about 5 to 8 times if it dont get better clean the carb again this may help...
http://hondaspree.net/wiki/index.php5?t ... r_Cleaning
http://hondaspree.net/wiki/index.php5?t ... ture_Guide
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http://hondaspree.net/wiki/index.php5?t ... r_Cleaning
http://hondaspree.net/wiki/index.php5?t ... ture_Guide
swimmingfree
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
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Re: 1887 Honda spree wont start!!!
hay by the way its cold as h.e.ll here in Michigan and colder there ... these motor do not run well in cold weather...(blow 32 ) Pete M is wright Do Not twist the throttle while you are cranking over the engine..... set the carb to the service manual seting....
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swimmingfree
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
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Re: 1887 Honda spree wont start!!!
OK! It started!!! I rode it down the road and back and it died when I got back into the garage. If I don't give it throttle it doesnt stay running. I'm guessing my carb needs to be tweaked so its perfect. I messed with the idle screw and oxygen screw for a while and I cant get it to idle for more than 10 seconds at most. Now what?
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Re: 1887 Honda spree wont start!!!
Greetings:
I'd say anyone who can get a 127 year-old scooter has already accomplished something great. I didn't even know Honda-san was making Sprees in eighteen eighty-seven.
Sinceriously, it sounds like you're leaking somewhere. All the fiddling with the carb in the world won't fix a crack in a crank seal or a plugged-up exhaust. Take the engine out and pressure-test it, then compression-test it, then bake your pipe. If nothing seems wrong with those, clean the carb some more.
I'd say anyone who can get a 127 year-old scooter has already accomplished something great. I didn't even know Honda-san was making Sprees in eighteen eighty-seven.
Sinceriously, it sounds like you're leaking somewhere. All the fiddling with the carb in the world won't fix a crack in a crank seal or a plugged-up exhaust. Take the engine out and pressure-test it, then compression-test it, then bake your pipe. If nothing seems wrong with those, clean the carb some more.
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Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
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Re: 1887 Honda spree wont start!!!
if i was you i wood let it sit till the weather get better to mess with it munch....
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swimmingfree
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet