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Gotta love Carbs!

Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 9:39 am
by Supermario1256
Ok, got a new carb, popped it on and one of the tubes on the bottom of it is just pouring gas. Ive tried to adjust the screws but im worried lack of experience is coming into play. maybe im just tuning it wrong? or could there be another issue? Any help/advice and ill love you forever. Ive looked through the manual and browsed on here but there isnt much related to my issue that i saw. :(

Re: Gotta love Carbs!

Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 12:21 pm
by bonesv
Supermario1256 wrote:Ok, got a new carb, popped it on and one of the tubes on the bottom of it is just pouring gas. Ive tried to adjust the screws but im worried lack of experience is coming into play. maybe im just tuning it wrong? or could there be another issue? Any help/advice and ill love you forever. Ive looked through the manual and browsed on here but there isnt much related to my issue that i saw. :(
Where did you get the new carb from? Which scooter did you mount it, what year and model?
Does it do this all the time or just when it is being started?
Giving this information will allow someone to help. Maybe some pics, if you can?

Re: Gotta love Carbs!

Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 1:04 pm
by Supermario1256
I went to the local honda shop, the numbers match to the old one. I'll post pictures in a second. It's a 1999 honda elite SR sa50p. It's running better with the carb on there it's just peeing everywhere. It's kinda like a Volkswagen, leaks oil to mark it's turf. Only in this case it's gas.

Edit* it's constantly pumping gas through. It took almost a full tank to get from my parents house to my house( it's about a 4 mile trip). I've tightened the screw on the left and it's slowed it down but it's still pumping it out.

Re: Gotta love Carbs!

Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 1:15 pm
by Supermario1256
The pink tub on the left is leaking gas. Is it a possibility that I've hooked the gas hose and oil hose in the wrong spots?

Re: Gotta love Carbs!

Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 1:37 pm
by swimmingfree
the float is stuck in the carb...
swimmingfree

Re: Gotta love Carbs!

Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 1:46 pm
by Supermario1256
I'm heading home now to take it apart and stuff. Now just to make sure I'm right, the float is the round donut thing right? Or is it the little missle shaped thing?

Re: Gotta love Carbs!

Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 1:55 pm
by swimmingfree
float is the round donut thing ..lol
swimmingfree

Re: Gotta love Carbs!

Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 1:56 pm
by VW505
I used to sell car parts back in the day. Any time we sold a carb there was paper that they had to sign stating that the floats had to be checked before putting it on the car. Always check the floats and check the jet size before bolting on any carb.

Re: Gotta love Carbs!

Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 2:30 pm
by Supermario1256
Does the little thing in my fingers go in the hole where I have it pointing? That's right under the float and that's where I had it before. The float is notched for it to go in it. At least it looks like it.

Re: Gotta love Carbs!

Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 2:41 pm
by mousewheels
> The pink tub on the left is leaking gas.
That is the bowl drain tube. Check that the screw in the bottom of the bowl is closed, and clean the carb bowl if needed.

> Does the little thing in my fingers go in the hole where I have it pointing?
Yes - that is the float valve. Check it's rubber tip for wear and the seat in carb body for squeaky clean.
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Re: Gotta love Carbs!

Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 3:14 pm
by Supermario1256
mousewheels wrote:> The pink tub on the left is leaking gas.
That is the bowl drain tube. Check that the screw in the bottom of the bowl is closed, and clean the carb bowl if needed.

> Does the little thing in my fingers go in the hole where I have it pointing?
Yes - that is the float valve. Check it's rubber tip for wear and the seat in carb body for squeaky clean.
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Only thing left to do is check that screw, all is in place. Is it the bottom silver screw on the outside of the bowl? If so should I tighten it to a snug state?

Re: Gotta love Carbs!

Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 5:46 pm
by Kevinstonge
Snug yes, but not too snug! I like to seat it to where the resistance starts, and then just a c-hair more.

Re: Gotta love Carbs!

Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 6:14 pm
by Supermario1256
now it wont even start. I can loosen it up and gas just pours from it for a few minutes then stops. I can get it to start at all now though. Im so lost with this. Sucks not having experience. Thanks guys for helping me, though. Im really appreciative of it.

Re: Gotta love Carbs!

Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 6:41 pm
by Johnniespeed
From what I can see, that sure looks like the float bowl drain hose, the screw in the lower part of the float bowl is loosened to drain the bowl and tightened for normal running operation. There should be no fuel coming out of the float bowl drain hose when the drain screw is tight.
If that is correct and the bowl is draining, I would not expect it to start.
I maintain a fleet of over a dozen vintage scooters, plus my own collection, you should try to keep twenty carbs working correctly at the same time, it's a lot like that game at Chucky Cheese's , you know " BOP a MOLE" as soon as you nail one, two more pop up.

Re: Gotta love Carbs!

Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 7:32 pm
by swflcarl
Yes the drain plug is not working. Fairly certain there is an o-ring on the drain screw. You may be missing this. If you are flowing gas out of the tube you indicated... it is not seating correctly so you dump. The petcock that allows fuel to flow to the carb will only work under vacuum (piston moving).

Get the drain screw fixed and you should be good to go. If your float needle with the rubber tip is not working.... you would be leaking from the overflow tube at the top of the carb bowl. It is good to polish the seat on this float... many write-ups on this - but again this doesn't appear to be your problem.