Replaced belt, now it won't start

GIJoeBob · Post by **GIJoeBob** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:38 pm

I needed to put a new belt on my spree. I picked up a belt at NAPA (9.5/10mm x 650mm) and got it all put back together and now it won't start. It sounds like the battery is run down when I try to start it and it doesn't make a difference when connected to a charger.

Could the starter motor be in a bind? I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary when it all went back together.

HELP!!

Kenny_McCormic · Post by **Kenny_McCormic** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:52 pm

could be pull off the cover and have a look, maybe the belt is too short and tight?

GIJoeBob · Post by **GIJoeBob** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:19 pm

My brother in law came by on his way back from a motorcycle rally and looked over the situation. He suggested we connect the battery terminals to a charger and try that.

I had done this already up to 40 amps and I didn't think that little motor would take more. He didn't see the logic in that.

He cranked it up to 200 amps and the motor naturally fried.

I have bits left over from when my father-in-law ruined another starter so perhaps I can combine the two into a working starter.

Anybody out there have a good deal on any starters?

hondaman · Post by **hondaman** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:55 pm

Motorcycles and scooters don't mix. Keep the brother-in-law away from your scooter. He may know motorcycles but scooters are a whole different story. The same goes for your father in law.

Kenny_McCormic · Post by **Kenny_McCormic** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:47 pm

Looks like you have some pretty stupid inlaws, forcing things either causes them to work or break, sometimes both. He owes you a starter for being a dumbass.

jstone · Post by **jstone** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:01 am

200 Amps? Do you mean volts? I think that it takes less than 1 amp to kill a human so i think 200 amps would have set fire to your scooter.

Kenny_McCormic · Post by **Kenny_McCormic** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:21 am

jstone wrote:200 Amps? Do you mean volts? I think that it takes less than 1 amp to kill a human so i think 200 amps would have set fire to your scooter.

You have obviously never seen a REAL battery charger.

GIJoeBob · Post by **GIJoeBob** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:36 am

Kenny_McCormic wrote:
jstone wrote:200 Amps? Do you mean volts? I think that it takes less than 1 amp to kill a human so i think 200 amps would have set fire to your scooter.
You have obviously never seen a REAL battery charger.

jstone · Post by **jstone** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:01 am

Oh... ok. I gues i'm an idiot. It just didn't make sense to me because usually when we talked about amps in college physics it was milliamps and we never got close to talking about anything like 200 amps, but i guess i was wrong.

Kenny_McCormic · Post by **Kenny_McCormic** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:09 am

Lol take classes in college physics and dont know what a battery charger is, we are dealing with 200 amps at 12 volts, watts is the universal thing that will tell you how much power is kinking around. A wall outlet puts out around 1800 watts, that battery charger outputs around 2400(in a short burst using a capacitor or something along those lines as the outlet cant supply that much power)

GIJoeBob · Post by **GIJoeBob** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:34 pm

I pieced together a starter and got everything reassembled and I am now back to the original problem.

I think the belt is sticking or binding somehow. In looking at the drive mechanism I don't see any way to adjust the two different pulleys.

Here are photos comparing the old belt with the new one.

Any ideas?

GIJoeBob · Post by **GIJoeBob** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:46 pm

Has anyone out there ever used a non-Honda belt in their Spree? Just wondering.

stillspeeding · Post by **stillspeeding** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:14 am

Automotive belts are made for low rpm and have a different angle cut, you could put a washer between the ramp and boss, this will bottom out the belt and not stall the engine.

GIJoeBob · Post by **GIJoeBob** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:35 am

stillspeeding wrote:Automotive belts are made for low rpm and have a different angle cut, you could put a washer between the ramp and boss, this will bottom out the belt and not stall the engine.

Thanks, I'll give that a try.

mopedman · Post by **mopedman** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:04 pm

if that don't work Honda still has the right belt in stock