Any experience with this BBK? Looks like a good deal....
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Any experience with this BBK? Looks like a good deal....
i dont have the money for a corsa right now and i think this bore might actually be just as good providing it puts out 3 more cc's.... heres the link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIO-Honda-Big-B ... 539wt_1392
if anyone has ever owned one or known of one and has experience with it, let me know if its worth it. i plan on getting a bbk this week
if anyone has ever owned one or known of one and has experience with it, let me know if its worth it. i plan on getting a bbk this week
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Re: Any experience with this BBK? Looks like a good deal....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/78CC-ALUMINUM-N ... 3f04bfaf26
This one is good......not a corsa but good for the $$
This one is good......not a corsa but good for the $$
new best 1/8th mile time 9.647 seconds @67.155 mph 310lbs total weight
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Re: Any experience with this BBK? Looks like a good deal....
Greetings:
That'd be Flash 3.1. The Nicasil bore is incredibly durable. It survived the deeply wrong-headed rookie Wheelman jetting errors like a champ - I mean coast-down temps teasing and OVER 500 degrees! Never a hiccup.
The downside is that as Jamz stated: It ain't no Corsa. Despite its 78cc displacement, it's a bit of an underachiever in the performance department. Others have suggested the porting could be improved, but this is tricky due to the easy-to-chip Nickel-Silicon plating.
Still, it's WAAAYYyyy stronger than stock and speeds approaching 60 with a good pipe are attainable. Good spread of torque down low, too. Run 8.44s and no taller unless you plan to try your hand at porting.
That'd be Flash 3.1. The Nicasil bore is incredibly durable. It survived the deeply wrong-headed rookie Wheelman jetting errors like a champ - I mean coast-down temps teasing and OVER 500 degrees! Never a hiccup.
The downside is that as Jamz stated: It ain't no Corsa. Despite its 78cc displacement, it's a bit of an underachiever in the performance department. Others have suggested the porting could be improved, but this is tricky due to the easy-to-chip Nickel-Silicon plating.
Still, it's WAAAYYyyy stronger than stock and speeds approaching 60 with a good pipe are attainable. Good spread of torque down low, too. Run 8.44s and no taller unless you plan to try your hand at porting.
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Re: Any experience with this BBK? Looks like a good deal....
I think that if the throat of the exhaust port was opened up a bit and the port window were left the same, this kit would see decent power gained without touching the nik-sil coating at all. It'd still not rev like a Corsa, but similar low end could be achieved for far less money.Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:
That'd be Flash 3.1. The Nicasil bore is incredibly durable. It survived the deeply wrong-headed rookie Wheelman jetting errors like a champ - I mean coast-down temps teasing and OVER 500 degrees! Never a hiccup.
The downside is that as Jamz stated: It ain't no Corsa. Despite its 78cc displacement, it's a bit of an underachiever in the performance department. Others have suggested the porting could be improved, but this is tricky due to the easy-to-chip Nickel-Silicon plating.
Still, it's WAAAYYyyy stronger than stock and speeds approaching 60 with a good pipe are attainable. Good spread of torque down low, too. Run 8.44s and no taller unless you plan to try your hand at porting.
But cutting away aluminum, you have to be more careful because mistakes happen much more quickly on aluminum than when carving out cast iron. It is a much softer metal, but that does not mean it's easier to port.
In clich├® form, "Slow and steady wins the race."
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Re: Any experience with this BBK? Looks like a good deal....
For a few bucks more you can get a high quality Malossi BBK. Better quality than either bore above. I have them in stock 165$ shipped. PM me if interested. Keith
http://www.hondaspree.net/phpBB3/viewto ... =2&t=19538
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Re: Any experience with this BBK? Looks like a good deal....
Greetings:
Is that for cast iron or for MHR, Eft?
The iron Malossi may outperform the Nic, never owned one except for the SE/05 65cc kit. Not so sure it'll hang with a Corsa, however.
Now the MHR is the stuff of Legend, but uncoated Al bore isn't renowned for longer-term durability.
Anyway, anything I-talian is almost certainly higher performance than the Nic. Malossi, Polini? Tomato, Tom-ah-to.
Made by experienced Craftsmen, either way. Porting might get the Nic close, but without the kind of knowledge that Guido and Luigi have, odds are just as good it'll make it worse.
Save the trouble and uncertainty. Go with the proven product if you can spare the extra $30.
Is that for cast iron or for MHR, Eft?
The iron Malossi may outperform the Nic, never owned one except for the SE/05 65cc kit. Not so sure it'll hang with a Corsa, however.
Now the MHR is the stuff of Legend, but uncoated Al bore isn't renowned for longer-term durability.
Anyway, anything I-talian is almost certainly higher performance than the Nic. Malossi, Polini? Tomato, Tom-ah-to.
Made by experienced Craftsmen, either way. Porting might get the Nic close, but without the kind of knowledge that Guido and Luigi have, odds are just as good it'll make it worse.
Save the trouble and uncertainty. Go with the proven product if you can spare the extra $30.
Wheelman-111
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Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
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Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
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Re: Any experience with this BBK? Looks like a good deal....
Mr. Wheelman The price is for the cast kit. Ya I dont think it would hang with the Corsa unless it was properly ported.Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:
Is that for cast iron or for MHR, Eft?
The iron Malossi may outperform the Nic, never owned one except for the SE/05 65cc kit. Not so sure it'll hang with a Corsa, however.
Now the MHR is the stuff of Legend, but uncoated Al bore isn't renowned for longer-term durability.
Anyway, anything I-talian is almost certainly higher performance than the Nic. Malossi, Polini? Tomato, Tom-ah-to.
Made by experienced Craftsmen, either way. Porting might get the Nic close, but without the kind of knowledge that Guido and Luigi have, odds are just as good it'll make it worse.
Save the trouble and uncertainty. Go with the proven product if you can spare the extra $30.
The MHR aluminum cylinder is indeed "Nikasil" lined. They dont use the term "Nikasil" though cause its a trademarked name. But its the same thing. This is how Malossi describes it.
"Cylinder liner with silicon carbide metal-spray coating on a galvanic nickel matrix, cross-honed with passes with diamonds for very tight tolerances."
Keith
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Re: Any experience with this BBK? Looks like a good deal....
Greetings:
I stand corrected on the MHR. That sure sounds like nickel silicon plating, which gives the superior heat-dissipating Aluminum cylinder the same or better durability as Iron. From all I have read, the MHR will be my choice if ever (God forbid...) my Corsa wears out.
There's also something to be said for the Iron Malossi. The Race-Spec bores make good power up top, but kinda fussy to try to ride around town at 30-45 MPH. It's kind of High Drama, all the time with the Corsa. Not much oomph in the midrange and a vintage "Turbo Lag" effect until the revs come up.
The Nikasil was very good for City Street riding, but ran short of breath over 9K and didn't touch the Corsa's wallop on top.
If the Iron Malossi splits the difference, it's an excellent choice. My 65cc Malossi Iron was stronger than the Polini Cortessa 65.
I stand corrected on the MHR. That sure sounds like nickel silicon plating, which gives the superior heat-dissipating Aluminum cylinder the same or better durability as Iron. From all I have read, the MHR will be my choice if ever (God forbid...) my Corsa wears out.
There's also something to be said for the Iron Malossi. The Race-Spec bores make good power up top, but kinda fussy to try to ride around town at 30-45 MPH. It's kind of High Drama, all the time with the Corsa. Not much oomph in the midrange and a vintage "Turbo Lag" effect until the revs come up.
The Nikasil was very good for City Street riding, but ran short of breath over 9K and didn't touch the Corsa's wallop on top.
If the Iron Malossi splits the difference, it's an excellent choice. My 65cc Malossi Iron was stronger than the Polini Cortessa 65.
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Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
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Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
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Re: Any experience with this BBK? Looks like a good deal....
What's the redline of the mhr and cast iron 70
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Re: Any experience with this BBK? Looks like a good deal....
8000-9000 for the cast kit and 9000-10000 for the MHR That info comes directly from Malossi
these numbers arent really "redline" but more where the bores perform best. Keith
these numbers arent really "redline" but more where the bores perform best. Keith
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Re: Any experience with this BBK? Looks like a good deal....
does anyone know how to calculate the ratio of primary gears given just the number of teeth on each one? (ie:18x39 teeth)
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'00 Honda Elite S.....................'06 Yamaha Zuma
-80cc Taiwanese BBK...............-Taiwan pwr pkg
-Malossi Vari
-6.9:1 Primary gears
-High Energy Ignition Coil
-Carbon Fiber Reeds
-Chrome CT Mani
-28mm OKO Carb
-Uni Pod Filter
-PG Long pipe
-80cc Taiwanese BBK...............-Taiwan pwr pkg
-Malossi Vari
-6.9:1 Primary gears
-High Energy Ignition Coil
-Carbon Fiber Reeds
-Chrome CT Mani
-28mm OKO Carb
-Uni Pod Filter
-PG Long pipe
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Re: Any experience with this BBK? Looks like a good deal....
Greetings:
See "Aftermarket Tooth Tally" in the Tech Sections. It's just arithmetic.
See "Aftermarket Tooth Tally" in the Tech Sections. It's just arithmetic.
Wheelman-111
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH