My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph
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Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph
So it's okay if that hole is open?
I looked at the throttle grip when I had the plastic off. Can I make the adjustment without removing it again? I checked the service manual but it just gives a free play spec of 2-6 mm and doesn't show how to do it.
I looked at the throttle grip when I had the plastic off. Can I make the adjustment without removing it again? I checked the service manual but it just gives a free play spec of 2-6 mm and doesn't show how to do it.
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Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph
i wood guess no ti will let oil out and may get low in the drive and fry it so a hose wood be best..
swimmingfree wrote:I looked at the throttle grip when I had the plastic off. Can I make the adjustment without removing it again? yes I checked the service manual but it just gives a free play spec of 2-6 mm and doesn't show how to do it. turn the turn buckull and remove the slack out of the cable.....
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se50 crank...
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ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
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se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph
The scooter will run fine without that breather tube, BUT I would recommend replacing it as having the open hole there does make it easier for dust/dirt/grit to get into the transmission.
1986 Spree w/ '87 SE50 motor
1985 Aero 50 w/ Dio motor: On Hold
1985 Aero 50 w/ Dio motor: On Hold
Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph
Update 4/14:
I had a chance to finally get it out and ride yesterday after upjetting the carb and knocking out the 2nd air box tab. Unfortunately it still has the exact same top speed of ~35mph.
I bought a long drill bit and plan to drill a couple holes through the baffles in the exhaust.
USPS lost the package from Taz so we are getting that sorted out.
I had a chance to finally get it out and ride yesterday after upjetting the carb and knocking out the 2nd air box tab. Unfortunately it still has the exact same top speed of ~35mph.
I bought a long drill bit and plan to drill a couple holes through the baffles in the exhaust.
USPS lost the package from Taz so we are getting that sorted out.
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Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph
drilling holes in your muffler WONT make it go faster
86 Nifty Fifty (spree)
ZX disk brake
Kitico 120kmh speedo
AF18 ZX ported
Polini corsa
Malossi crank
CTmani
24mmOKO
40pilot118main
Scorpion pipe
8.44 to 1
Michelin s1
71.3mph
92 yz125, 94 crm250
ZX disk brake
Kitico 120kmh speedo
AF18 ZX ported
Polini corsa
Malossi crank
CTmani
24mmOKO
40pilot118main
Scorpion pipe
8.44 to 1
Michelin s1
71.3mph
92 yz125, 94 crm250
Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph
Dang.. I thought I read something about it on here
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Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph
the stock pipe is good for 50mph if in good condition
86 Nifty Fifty (spree)
ZX disk brake
Kitico 120kmh speedo
AF18 ZX ported
Polini corsa
Malossi crank
CTmani
24mmOKO
40pilot118main
Scorpion pipe
8.44 to 1
Michelin s1
71.3mph
92 yz125, 94 crm250
ZX disk brake
Kitico 120kmh speedo
AF18 ZX ported
Polini corsa
Malossi crank
CTmani
24mmOKO
40pilot118main
Scorpion pipe
8.44 to 1
Michelin s1
71.3mph
92 yz125, 94 crm250
Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph
it's never a good idea to just drill holes in your exhaust. the engine needs a certain back pressure for scavaging and stuff. don't think it's so important on a 4 stroke but a 2 stroke will lose power
1986 Spree/ Eve af16 swapped 65cc Prodigy vari 8g 9:1 Ruima gears
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph
Your top speed is 35 mph because that's what the stock unrestricted elite is supposed to do. Once you swap out the variator with the performance variator and ramp plate you should see a couple more mph. And then once you change your gears to the 9:1 gears you should see the 45 mph that you were looking for. Changing your tires to some 90/90 will also help you get there. You said you had the parts coming in from taz, did you get that sorted out?
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Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph
Greetings:
The breather isn't critical. A length of hose keeps it from raining into your gear oil. Just match the outside diameter for a snug fit and it'll be fine. If that's really a stock cable, I wonder if you might have mixed up the oil pump and carb throttle ends? Otherwise, there's an adjustment at the grip that will require you to dismantle the clamp and remove the grip entirely to examine and adjust. I don't recall the stock cable having a second "in-line" adjustment option.
The breather isn't critical. A length of hose keeps it from raining into your gear oil. Just match the outside diameter for a snug fit and it'll be fine. If that's really a stock cable, I wonder if you might have mixed up the oil pump and carb throttle ends? Otherwise, there's an adjustment at the grip that will require you to dismantle the clamp and remove the grip entirely to examine and adjust. I don't recall the stock cable having a second "in-line" adjustment option.
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Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
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Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph
Greetings:
Jack, were you Trains420 in a former life? If so, your behavior online has been commendable lately.
Jack, were you Trains420 in a former life? If so, your behavior online has been commendable lately.
Wheelman-111
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph
Thanks everyone for the advice and input! The parts from Taz should be here soon so ill post after I get them installed.
One more question: What size aftermarket kick starter will fit the elite? I'm just looking for the lever and didn't want to spend a ton because I may never use it.
I saw these links on eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261098348356?ss ... 1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161005278399?ss ... 1438.l2649
One more question: What size aftermarket kick starter will fit the elite? I'm just looking for the lever and didn't want to spend a ton because I may never use it.
I saw these links on eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261098348356?ss ... 1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161005278399?ss ... 1438.l2649
Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph
Update 4/22
My package from Taz arrived on Saturday! Thanks again Taz! I had some time to get the variator/ramp plate installed saturday night and I had a chance to ride it around yesterday. Well the good news is it's now up to 43 mph confirmed via GPS. That's on a flat with no tucking or any of that nonsense and I only had about 1/3 of a mile stretch to get there. It felt like if I had a longer stretch it would get moving even a little faster.
Now I'm debating whether or not I want to put the 9:1 gears in. It's pretty darn quick up to 25mph so I think I could give some of that up to get another 5 or 6 mph. We'll see...
Thanks again for all the help!
My package from Taz arrived on Saturday! Thanks again Taz! I had some time to get the variator/ramp plate installed saturday night and I had a chance to ride it around yesterday. Well the good news is it's now up to 43 mph confirmed via GPS. That's on a flat with no tucking or any of that nonsense and I only had about 1/3 of a mile stretch to get there. It felt like if I had a longer stretch it would get moving even a little faster.
Now I'm debating whether or not I want to put the 9:1 gears in. It's pretty darn quick up to 25mph so I think I could give some of that up to get another 5 or 6 mph. We'll see...
Thanks again for all the help!
Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph
i pm'd you i am looking to do the same setup! if u took pics u should do a build thread! who is this "taz" u speak of? i need to order somke parts from him or it or whatev...
Re: My 2000 Elite SA50P quest for 45mph
Taz is forum member tazland001 and he sells things on ebay through the name chopchop 123. Heres a link so his ebay store http://stores.ebay.com/alluneed-scooter ... 34.c0.m322Bman5000 wrote:i pm'd you i am looking to do the same setup! if u took pics u should do a build thread! who is this "taz" u speak of? i need to order somke parts from him or it or whatev...