Ever changed the clutch springs on a Spree?

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Ever changed the clutch springs on a Spree?

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I would like to increase my take off speed and I was thinking some stiffer clutch springs might do it.

Anyone have any experience with this?
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um well it may but porting the exhaust will do the job and i dont think they make different springs for the spree. they are making some performance stuff for spree soon
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Videonut wrote:um well it may but porting the exhaust will do the job and i dont think they make different springs for the spree. they are making some performance stuff for spree soon
I have shoved the longest screwdriver I have (about 14 inches) into the muffler and never felt anything to puncture.
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If you put a stiffer spring in your spree it will do the opposite of what you want. It will take off slower. You do not have the HP for a stiffer spring.

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GIJoeBob wrote:
Videonut wrote:um well it may but porting the exhaust will do the job and i dont think they make different springs for the spree. they are making some performance stuff for spree soon
I have shoved the longest screwdriver I have (about 14 inches) into the muffler and never felt anything to puncture.
Porting the exhaust refers to grinding down the exhaust port in the cylinder. ;)
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tazland001 wrote:If you put a stiffer spring in your spree it will do the opposite of what you want. It will take off slower. You do not have the HP for a stiffer spring.

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Do explain, yes there will be more lag but if the engine has spooled up more there will be more energy to dump and the engine will be closer to the powerband, thus lowering the 5-15mph slower than dog s*** window problem sprees have.
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Kenny_McCormic wrote:
tazland001 wrote:If you put a stiffer spring in your spree it will do the opposite of what you want. It will take off slower. You do not have the HP for a stiffer spring.

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Do explain, yes there will be more lag but if the engine has spooled up more there will be more energy to dump and the engine will be closer to the powerband, thus lowering the 5-15mph slower than dog s*** window problem sprees have.
I am curious as well. I want the clutch to engage with the engine is at higher rpms and in the power band.
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i put polini natural springs in my elite e, it helped ALOT on takeoff, im sure you would reach a point of diminishing returns shortly though, say if you put the ol malossi yellows in it...
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scooterwerx wrote:i put polini natural springs in my elite e, it helped ALOT on takeoff, im sure you would reach a point of diminishing returns shortly though, say if you put the ol malossi yellows in it...
Certainly. I just want to move one notch up because the scoot just bogs down on take off.
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exactly, it gets rid of the truffle shuffle takeoff
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You could try and go with stronger clutch springs but there is a hit and miss possibility that it might not work out as intended. The idea is to tune the clutch engagement right when the pipe generates backpressure (harmonic resonance) to produce power.

- If the clutch engages before that point, it'll bog until it reaches the rpm where power begins. This condition is naturally made worse when there's an increase of load (heavy rider, steeper climb, etc.)

- If the clutch engages anywhere after the point where the pipe generates power, you lose some valuable, useable powerband.

The idea is to get it exactly when the motor start to spike in power and match the clutch engagement point to that the best you can.
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Arnadanoob wrote:You could try and go with stronger clutch springs but there is a hit and miss possibility that it might not work out as intended. The idea is to tune the clutch engagement right when the pipe generates backpressure (harmonic resonance) to produce power.

- If the clutch engages before that point, it'll bog until it reaches the rpm where power begins. This condition is naturally made worse when there's an increase of load (heavy rider, steeper climb, etc.)

- If the clutch engages anywhere after the point where the pipe generates power, you lose some valuable, useable powerband.

The idea is to get it exactly when the motor start to spike in power and match the clutch engagement point to that the best you can.
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