How to split a AF16e case for noobs. Plus 120cc install

[bakaracer]

how is the bike running?

[Limp1144]

Thanks for asking. I am still waiting on a bigger jet gonna try the #132 main jet. A couple of days ago i almost crashed. It appears that the stroker has so much torque it can drift in the turns. Fun fact to learn when the rear end slide out 2 feet around a curve. But no worries i am fine no crash just a little shaken up. I had to go with heavier weights to help keep the wheelies down. I went from straight 8 grams to straight 9grams so the wheelie is only 6-8 inches high. I still have some tuning i need to do. The 51mm stock crank scooter beats the 120cc on midrange. 120cc kills the 51mm to 40ish then the 51mm kit pulls on the 120cc to 60-65is. So that right there i know there is some tuning needing to be done. But the motor is strong the take off with the 2000 big spring and the 2000grabbers is very good i beat a mustange from light to light. You should have seen the look on his face. Priceless

[Limp1144]

Here are the videos as requested from the members. Remember scooter isnt tuned well yet. I am going with a 30mm oko carb.

walk around of the 120cc stroker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjXzIeBwoAs

The stroker running
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqlEXbu7Nc0

1995 elite with 51mm bore Walk around
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03Pks5IB8FQ

Start up 95 elite sat for 4 days Note had no gas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDILbBttpys

A few revs of the 51mm bore
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp-ZH7XkU2w

[scooterwerx]

man, so how does the 51x44 mini stroker compare to the full on setup? i really want to do one of these setups for my new project!

[Limp1144]

Its pretty darn close to the 120cc setup i would recommend the mini stroker witht he 51mm kit. Bolt on

[bakaracer]

A full stroker and mini stroker set up should not be close at all.power wise its should be night and day.If the full stoker is pretty close to a mini than the full stroker is not built correctly.

[scooterwerx]

so the full stroker is that much more powerful? is the reliability that much worse with the FS? i want ridiculous fast, like scary fast...! hahah

[bakaracer]

yes the fs is that much more powerfull when setup right.6-8 hp differeance is alot in these little engines.so the 51x44.4 setup is 90.7cc and the 52.6x55 is 125cc. Thats 34.30 cc difference.That gives you an idea of engine size difference and you know what that means in power in these little engines.If done right the full stroker can go over 100mph

[scooterwerx]

so is the reliability all in how its built and tuned? are there inherent problems with the full strokers or is it just that they are more sensitive to user errors than the smaller setups?

[Limp1144]

full stroker not worth the work. just use the mini stroker setup it is more reliable and makes less heat. There is no modifications required unlike the 120cc kits

[bakaracer]

so is the reliability all in how its built and tuned? are there inherent problems with the full strokers or is it just that they are more sensitive to user errors than the smaller setups?

yes it how its built and tuned.the 50mm or 51mm crank with a 51mm stroker bore seams to be the setup for the most reliability for strokers.or you can go watercooled for even more reliability.