High performance rollers
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Re: High performance rollers
Carnie wrote:Alright. If you insist.
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2000 Elite SR50 -THE PURPLE NURPLE
50mm BBK (tai)
26mm OKO (round slide) 135 Main Jet
V-8 pipe
39/18 secondary gears (7.583:1 ratio)
36 grams in Prodigy variator
Malossi Delta Clutch & WIng Bell- Thanks RED EFT
65mph GPS (on the freeway)
50mm BBK (tai)
26mm OKO (round slide) 135 Main Jet
V-8 pipe
39/18 secondary gears (7.583:1 ratio)
36 grams in Prodigy variator
Malossi Delta Clutch & WIng Bell- Thanks RED EFT
65mph GPS (on the freeway)
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Re: High performance rollers
have you got your gram scale....
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se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
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Re: High performance rollers
Greetings:
Nice to see some Forumistas with actual Metal-Munching Skee-Yulls! My 32.5 gram Italian load isn't too worn yet, but put me down for a set of American ones once you get your process together. Sure beats handing more of our money to folks overseas!
Nice to see some Forumistas with actual Metal-Munching Skee-Yulls! My 32.5 gram Italian load isn't too worn yet, but put me down for a set of American ones once you get your process together. Sure beats handing more of our money to folks overseas!
Wheelman-111
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Re: High performance rollers
Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:
Nice to see some Forumistas with actual Metal-Munching Skee-Yulls! My 32.5 gram Italian load isn't too worn yet, but put me down for a set of American ones once you get your process together. Sure beats handing more of our money to folks overseas!
Will do Wheelman. Now my rollers from Taiwan, measure a bit over 16mm I think like 16.5mm is that normal?
Swim, yes the scale is with me now.
2000 Elite SR50 -THE PURPLE NURPLE
50mm BBK (tai)
26mm OKO (round slide) 135 Main Jet
V-8 pipe
39/18 secondary gears (7.583:1 ratio)
36 grams in Prodigy variator
Malossi Delta Clutch & WIng Bell- Thanks RED EFT
65mph GPS (on the freeway)
50mm BBK (tai)
26mm OKO (round slide) 135 Main Jet
V-8 pipe
39/18 secondary gears (7.583:1 ratio)
36 grams in Prodigy variator
Malossi Delta Clutch & WIng Bell- Thanks RED EFT
65mph GPS (on the freeway)
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Re: High performance rollers
Greetings:
I can't recall when I last applied a mic to a roller, but it seems to me all of mine were spot-on 16mm. Thicker diameter will push the drive face further out, potentially increasing the upgear effect. The downside is that maybe the face can't push back in as far, hurting take-off a little. I've been known to try Yamaha 15x12s. Too rattly.![Sad :(](./images/smilies/icon_sad.gif)
I can't recall when I last applied a mic to a roller, but it seems to me all of mine were spot-on 16mm. Thicker diameter will push the drive face further out, potentially increasing the upgear effect. The downside is that maybe the face can't push back in as far, hurting take-off a little. I've been known to try Yamaha 15x12s. Too rattly.
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Wheelman-111
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
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Re: High performance rollers
so whats the weight thay start off at ?
swimmingfree
swimmingfree
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
Re: High performance rollers
Well the one long one I made was 13 grams and was about 2.5 times longer than needed. So I will have to increase the weights a bit, I need to compare the weight of the 2 materials and also try to calculate a simple, fast weigh (excuse the pun) to achieve our roller needs. But I will be able to produce them in any weight Italy or Taiwan can, Within .1 of a gram. of what ever your scooter desires.swimmingfree wrote:so whats the weight thay start off at ?
swimmingfree
2000 Elite SR50 -THE PURPLE NURPLE
50mm BBK (tai)
26mm OKO (round slide) 135 Main Jet
V-8 pipe
39/18 secondary gears (7.583:1 ratio)
36 grams in Prodigy variator
Malossi Delta Clutch & WIng Bell- Thanks RED EFT
65mph GPS (on the freeway)
50mm BBK (tai)
26mm OKO (round slide) 135 Main Jet
V-8 pipe
39/18 secondary gears (7.583:1 ratio)
36 grams in Prodigy variator
Malossi Delta Clutch & WIng Bell- Thanks RED EFT
65mph GPS (on the freeway)
Re: High performance rollers
wow, next he will show you how to turn a contessa bore into a corsa bore, its real easy boyz if you know how ![smile :smile:](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
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Re: High performance rollers
maddog wrote:wow, next he will show you how to turn a contessa bore into a corsa bore, its real easy boyz if you know how
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2000 Elite SR50 -THE PURPLE NURPLE
50mm BBK (tai)
26mm OKO (round slide) 135 Main Jet
V-8 pipe
39/18 secondary gears (7.583:1 ratio)
36 grams in Prodigy variator
Malossi Delta Clutch & WIng Bell- Thanks RED EFT
65mph GPS (on the freeway)
50mm BBK (tai)
26mm OKO (round slide) 135 Main Jet
V-8 pipe
39/18 secondary gears (7.583:1 ratio)
36 grams in Prodigy variator
Malossi Delta Clutch & WIng Bell- Thanks RED EFT
65mph GPS (on the freeway)
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Re: High performance rollers
Greetings:
Quoth MadDog:
Quoth MadDog:
That's the kind of information we could all use. Unfortunately, it would take some effort to post it up, and evidently you're work-averse. If you're not willing (or is it Able?) to share this kind of information, why bother posting it up in a thread that has nothing to do with it? I've seen some effort by you to be helpful lately, Dog. This ain't one.wow, next he will show you how to turn a contessa bore into a corsa bore, its real easy boyz if you know how
Wheelman-111
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Re: High performance rollers
it's always good to have one of those aroundswimmingfree wrote:have you got your gram scale....
swimmingfree
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Re: High performance rollers
Way cool! I too enjoy knowing a member of the forum is making things for the community.
2000 Elite: oko 24 (45/135), corsa, pg short, keli vari, 8.44 secondaries = 71mph gps
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Re: High performance rollers
*raises hand* I have a daily driver that can be used for... uh... ahem... test purposes! ![thumbwink :thumbwink:](./images/smilies/icon_thumbup.gif)
Seriously though, I'd like to get some of your rollers please. Let me know of the cost.
Have you thought of making something like the Polini rollers?
What of trying to replace the rubber/plastic part that covers the metal part with this material?
In this way, you'd just need is to do the rubber/plastic part and just replace that instead of the whole thing?
Would this lower your cost? Or would it be harder to cast? I have no idea and you would know better than I.
Just giving you some food for thought. It might be easier and economically viable to do it the way that you are doing it already.
![Image](http://www.racingplanetusa.com/images/gross/polini_abstimmset_16mm.jpg?language=en&shop_ID=1)
![thumbwink :thumbwink:](./images/smilies/icon_thumbup.gif)
Seriously though, I'd like to get some of your rollers please. Let me know of the cost.
Have you thought of making something like the Polini rollers?
What of trying to replace the rubber/plastic part that covers the metal part with this material?
In this way, you'd just need is to do the rubber/plastic part and just replace that instead of the whole thing?
Would this lower your cost? Or would it be harder to cast? I have no idea and you would know better than I.
Just giving you some food for thought. It might be easier and economically viable to do it the way that you are doing it already.
![Image](http://www.racingplanetusa.com/images/gross/polini_abstimmset_16mm.jpg?language=en&shop_ID=1)
Re: High performance rollers
Sorry guys I have been very busy. I will be back this project hopefully soon. They are rather time consuming and I dont have much of that. Taz will be first in line, but more than likely I will bust out a decent size batch when I do it. What would be the most common weight I should make first?
2000 Elite SR50 -THE PURPLE NURPLE
50mm BBK (tai)
26mm OKO (round slide) 135 Main Jet
V-8 pipe
39/18 secondary gears (7.583:1 ratio)
36 grams in Prodigy variator
Malossi Delta Clutch & WIng Bell- Thanks RED EFT
65mph GPS (on the freeway)
50mm BBK (tai)
26mm OKO (round slide) 135 Main Jet
V-8 pipe
39/18 secondary gears (7.583:1 ratio)
36 grams in Prodigy variator
Malossi Delta Clutch & WIng Bell- Thanks RED EFT
65mph GPS (on the freeway)