Taiwan 66cc kit installed
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Taiwan 66cc kit installed
well my 66cc kit came in the mail yesterday...and it seems legit
the bore just looks to me like a stock bore that has been over bored w/ a larger piston and it uses the stock head w/ no cutting needed
got it installed in a hair over 40min, put the key in, flipped the switch, and looked down to see this
i thought "thats probably not good"...but off kicking i went anyway and it started right up
let it idle for about 20min (meanwhile adjusting the idle for the new 24% displacement increase) and shut her down for about 30min
did that twice last night but i had to work today and i have no other wheels so i was forced to drive it the 2.3 miles to work babying it the whole way
while the bike was parked at work i put her threw about 6-7 more heat cycles before noon (not that busy at work today)
took it out for lunch for a 2.7 mile ride to the tech school, sat for 15 min then took it to the nearest deli for a sandwich, a little over 3 miles
well the rings must have set while my sandwich was getting made cause on my .5mile trip back to work...man... thats all i can say
i figured i had a little room to hold the throttle WOT for a sec or 2 on a straight stretch but as i pulled out the deli parking lot onto a side street i blipped it to about 1/2 throttle and the d*** front wheel lifted off the ground! i almost dumped the d*** thing cause i wasent ready for that s***
as it sits right now the 66 kit pulls harder at 1/2 throttle than my slightly ported stock bore did at WOT...once the break in is over ill give a full report of top speeds
and heres some install pics for good measure
the bore just looks to me like a stock bore that has been over bored w/ a larger piston and it uses the stock head w/ no cutting needed
got it installed in a hair over 40min, put the key in, flipped the switch, and looked down to see this
i thought "thats probably not good"...but off kicking i went anyway and it started right up
let it idle for about 20min (meanwhile adjusting the idle for the new 24% displacement increase) and shut her down for about 30min
did that twice last night but i had to work today and i have no other wheels so i was forced to drive it the 2.3 miles to work babying it the whole way
while the bike was parked at work i put her threw about 6-7 more heat cycles before noon (not that busy at work today)
took it out for lunch for a 2.7 mile ride to the tech school, sat for 15 min then took it to the nearest deli for a sandwich, a little over 3 miles
well the rings must have set while my sandwich was getting made cause on my .5mile trip back to work...man... thats all i can say
i figured i had a little room to hold the throttle WOT for a sec or 2 on a straight stretch but as i pulled out the deli parking lot onto a side street i blipped it to about 1/2 throttle and the d*** front wheel lifted off the ground! i almost dumped the d*** thing cause i wasent ready for that s***
as it sits right now the 66 kit pulls harder at 1/2 throttle than my slightly ported stock bore did at WOT...once the break in is over ill give a full report of top speeds
and heres some install pics for good measure
Re: Taiwan 66cc kit installed
negative on the pics- cant see.
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Re: Taiwan 66cc kit installed
Hah - 6660 miles at installation day
Thanks for the pics, write up and wheelie warnings!
Hard to see but maybe you have a pod filter on the carb? Any other changes - jets, exhaust?
Thanks for the pics, write up and wheelie warnings!
Hard to see but maybe you have a pod filter on the carb? Any other changes - jets, exhaust?
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Re: Taiwan 66cc kit installed
oh yea i guess i could leave that info toomousewheels wrote:Hah - 6660 miles at installation day
Thanks for the pics, write up and wheelie warnings!
Hard to see but maybe you have a pod filter on the carb? Any other changes - jets, exhaust?
as of right now its stock exhaust w/ a pod filter (UNI) jet drilled to around 97 in the stock carb and it seems to be running a little rich
and ruck vari and 9.8-1 gears
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Re: Taiwan 66cc kit installed
Greetings:
Nice job both on assembly and photo-documentation. For the record, what is the engine and in what frame?
Nice job both on assembly and photo-documentation. For the record, what is the engine and in what frame?
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Re: Taiwan 66cc kit installed
99SR motor in an elite E frameWheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:
Nice job both on assembly and photo-documentation. For the record, what is the engine and in what frame?
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Re: Taiwan 66cc kit installed
Greetings:
SpyderMike submits:
Altogether boys and girls, can you say "Power-to-weight ratio?" An enviable project. Nice job!
SpyderMike submits:
99SR motor in an elite E frame
Altogether boys and girls, can you say "Power-to-weight ratio?" An enviable project. Nice job!
Wheelman-111
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
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Re: Taiwan 66cc kit installed
well for an extra $10 i could have gone your route w/ the 75cc nik-a-sil bore...but ize dont gots none them fancy measurein thangs like youz gotsWheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:
SpyderMike submits:99SR motor in an elite E frame
Altogether boys and girls, can you say "Power-to-weight ratio?" An enviable project. Nice job!
if i would have bought a vapor gauge first then i probably would have went the same route as you, as i could have followed behind you learning from you mistakes/findings
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Re: Taiwan 66cc kit installed
Greetings:
SpyderMike submits:
I've had a few.
But then again,
Too few to mention.
If you're sticking with the stock carb sans airbox (Open pod?), try a 105 for starters. With SA box and well-oiled filter it's closer to 88 methinks.
SpyderMike submits:
Regrets?if i would have bought a vapor gauge first then i probably would have went the same route as you, as i could have followed behind you learning from you mistakes/findings
I've had a few.
But then again,
Too few to mention.
If you're sticking with the stock carb sans airbox (Open pod?), try a 105 for starters. With SA box and well-oiled filter it's closer to 88 methinks.
Wheelman-111
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Re: Taiwan 66cc kit installed
let us know when it blows cuz it will blow
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Re: Taiwan 66cc kit installed
so is this something that you know based on experience??? or is this just more random s*** talking you like to take part in??maddog wrote:let us know when it blows cuz it will blow
Re: Taiwan 66cc kit installed
Ya been there done that and i had the proper gear ratio meaning you don't want the front end to lift, the rings are cheap carbon and should be chrome molly, the cylinder should be ni-si treated.
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Re: Taiwan 66cc kit installed
Nicasil is for aluminum cylinders- It is used as a hard surface treatment so an iron sleeve does not have to be used. Iron cylinders have no need for nicasil coating.
Re: Taiwan 66cc kit installed
Actually I take that back- looking into it further some manufacturers do use nikasil on iron bores for friction reduction- my bad.
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Re: Taiwan 66cc kit installed
my gear ratio is 9.8-1 right now...but if this kit seems to work ill probably be switching to 8.4-1maddog wrote:Ya been there done that and i had the proper gear ratio meaning you don't want the front end to lift, the rings are cheap carbon and should be chrome molly, the cylinder should be ni-si treated.
the kit looks to me as if they just bored out a stock cylinder and opened the exhaust port slightly (it still says 49cc on the casting)
idk...ill wait and see, if it blows it blows hopefully by then i got the $$ for a more top of the line kit