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72cc dio motor MPH question

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:36 pm
by Rob
well got to take out my scooter the other day and i cant get it over 42 mph.

i am running stock muffler derestricted and stock variator and stock gears

what should i do to get the full power out of this motor?

i really want to see this scooter go 55 mph and i think with the right stuff i can get it there

its a 95 honda elite s

what do u guys think i should change on this setup?

Re: 72cc dio motor MPH question

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:44 pm
by mookie
credit limit on your card?? :hi:

Re: 72cc dio motor MPH question

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:49 pm
by Rob
money is not a problem here

Re: 72cc dio motor MPH question

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:49 am
by bakaracer
Rob wrote:well got to take out my scooter the other day and i cant get it over 42 mph.

i am running stock muffler derestricted and stock variator and stock gears

what should i do to get the full power out of this motor?

i really want to see this scooter go 55 mph and i think with the right stuff i can get it there

its a 95 honda elite s

what do u guys think i should change on this setup?
Get a aftermarket variator and some 9to1 or 8.5to1 gears. Did you rejet the carb?

Re: 72cc dio motor MPH question

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:52 am
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:

Read Flash III Build Chronicles in Scooter Builds for what's possible with the stock carb and pipe.

A variator (mine's a Polini but Keli should perform very well too...) with 9:1 gears and only stock power was enough for 48-ish. Your BB should push that easily above 50. That ain't 55 however. :sad:

To get there I believe you'll need a pipe of some sort. I chose a V8 because it's a nice compromise between the low ceiling of the stock and the gutless low-end I've read about with full-race chamber pipes. Mine was relatively cheap at JiangWayne's a few months ago, but I've noticed the price went up about $50 since I bought mine.

I do not believe a manifold/carb is necessary to achieve 55, but an aftermarket filter and a substantial upjet is necessary. I ended up with around a 101 by the time I resolved some erroneous temp reading confusion. You may find an 88-92 will suffice if you retain the stock airbox, suitably drilled, but I believe the max performance suffers.

That said, if you plan eventually to do a heavy-breather pipe and replace the carb/manifold with something bigger, save time and money by installing 8.4s instead of 9:1s initially. Even without the carb, holding a 55 cruise speed will be easier; once up to speed you can relax the throttle and ride the torque at lower revs.

Re: 72cc dio motor MPH question

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 2:55 am
by veedubh20

Re: 72cc dio motor MPH question

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:59 am
by mookie
:*:
you owe us 5 minutes. :jack:

Re: 72cc dio motor MPH question

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:47 pm
by burnt_toast
veedubh20 wrote:hope this video help.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZpBrYju-J4 :popcorn:
yup, check out akped driver's setup

used that as a basis when building my own ministroke corsa setup

9:1 gears will be cherry for you
plus aftermarket variator

will need to change center and grab springs in clutch too

then she should boogie :2thumbs:

Re: 72cc dio motor MPH question

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:06 pm
by mookie
Rob wrote:money is not a problem here
Cool ! :rock: