i need help going a lil faster

Does your Spree/Elite already run great, and you're trying to make it quicker/faster? Need a monster motor swap? Discuss your ideas here.

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hey i have a 1989 honda elite sb50p and a variator out of a 87 elite se50p i wama put it into my 89 elite . what stock roller weights are in that and what ones should i get to get faster speed and not trash my axceleration i weigh about 235lbs for the clutch a want to get a new center spring and new grab springs but what rpm ones shoud i get to get going good and faster andf have good exel
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are you using 87 elite 50 motor in your elite E?
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no sb50p stock motor
bakaracer wrote:are you using 87 elite 50 motor in your elite E?
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To my knowledge, you are substituting a restricted variator for another restricted one. I was certain the P in the model number were the restricted ones released by Honda to keep it at 25-30 for the moped laws in some states. I believe the variator backplate for these are flat and do not allow the belt to hit top gear.

I would just get a keli variator that comes with weights... 9g I think. But if you have the P model, then you have other restrictions as well.
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what restrictions does my sb50p have


ktroy wrote:To my knowledge, you are substituting a restricted variator for another restricted one. I was certain the P in the model number were the restricted ones released by Honda to keep it at 25-30 for the moped laws in some states. I believe the variator backplate for these are flat and do not allow the belt to hit top gear.

I would just get a keli variator that comes with weights... 9g I think. But if you have the P model, then you have other restrictions as well.
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Read about it on this forum. It's all over on how to de-restrict them. Top of my head its the variator, exhaust pipe, oil pump cable (or lack thereof), and a main jet in the carb. May be more but I think that is the bulk of them.

Or maybe its not restricted anymore. How fast does it go on a flat?
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spewya wrote:what restrictions does my sb50p have
There is no variator on an elite e

That is the main restriction. :smile:

get the taz 44mm bbk and up gears :thumbwink:
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so i heard that i have to modify my 1985 honda spree if i wanna add another 10-15 horses, which makes sense. But i was wondering if i could do anything with a stock engine to add more power and mph without any modifications? thanks.
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Portugal6 wrote:so i heard that i have to modify my 1985 honda spree if i wanna add another 10-15 horses, which makes sense. But i was wondering if i could do anything with a stock engine to add more power and mph without any modifications? thanks.
The spree engine makes under 3hp stock.

There is nothing you can do to ADD 10-15 HP for free.
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Greetings:

Quoth Portugal6:
so i heard that i have to modify my 1985 honda spree if i wanna add another 10-15 horses, which makes sense. But i was wondering if i could do anything with a stock engine to add more power and mph without any modifications? thanks
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Portugal6 wrote:so i heard that i have to modify my 1985 honda spree if i wanna add another 10-15 horses, which makes sense. But i was wondering if i could do anything with a stock engine to add more power and mph without any modifications? thanks.

Oh yes ....I almost forgot you can buy wheelman's POWERBAND for your spree. Easy 15-20mph faster in the 1/8th mile.

Image the acme products also work great for the spree.
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I have a 25hp Nitrous kit on my Drag scooter.... never used more than the 15hp nozzles... mostly the 10hp
I sure wouldnt try it on a stock motor :imo:
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ya there isnt a vairitor on it but i wana try and put 1 frome a se50p but i heard i cant , is that true. an how muh is a 44mm bbk and gaers.. and lower in the post some1 said get a powerband for 15-20 mph . what is that

Trafficjamz wrote:
spewya wrote:what restrictions does my sb50p have
There is no variator on an elite e

That is the main restriction. :smile:

get the taz 44mm bbk and up gears :thumbwink:
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o ya it goes 30-32 on flat and i weigh 250
spewya wrote:ya there isnt a vairitor on it but i wana try and put 1 frome a se50p but i heard i cant , is that true. an how muh is a 44mm bbk and gaers.. and lower in the post some1 said get a powerband for 15-20 mph . what is that

Trafficjamz wrote:
spewya wrote:what restrictions does my sb50p have
There is no variator on an elite e

That is the main restriction. :smile:

get the taz 44mm bbk and up gears :thumbwink:
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Irrelevant question, but what do you have a 4 stroke motor for your avatar?

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