I replaced my drive belt with a new OEM Bando. Also changed both tires with Pirelli SL26 90/90. I was able to hit 42-43 mph easily with the old belt and tires. Now scooter seems to get stuck at 40. Scooter also accelerates a lot slower. Any ideas?
2000 Elite S
Stock Bore
Keli variator
9:1 gears
Airbox Mod
De-restricted Exhaust
85 Main Jet
Slower after drive belt and tire change?
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Slower after drive belt and tire change?
2000 Elite S
Stock Bore
Stock Carb, 85 main jet
Stock clutch and center spring
De-restricted exhaust and airbox
Keli Variator
Ruima 9:1 gears
Pirelli SL 90/90 tires
Stock Bore
Stock Carb, 85 main jet
Stock clutch and center spring
De-restricted exhaust and airbox
Keli Variator
Ruima 9:1 gears
Pirelli SL 90/90 tires
Re: Slower after drive belt and tire change?
What rollers and centerspring you using?
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1985 Aero 50 w/ Dio motor: On Hold
Re: Slower after drive belt and tire change?
54 gram rollers (6x9)
Stock center spring
Stock center spring
2000 Elite S
Stock Bore
Stock Carb, 85 main jet
Stock clutch and center spring
De-restricted exhaust and airbox
Keli Variator
Ruima 9:1 gears
Pirelli SL 90/90 tires
Stock Bore
Stock Carb, 85 main jet
Stock clutch and center spring
De-restricted exhaust and airbox
Keli Variator
Ruima 9:1 gears
Pirelli SL 90/90 tires
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Re: Slower after drive belt and tire change?
Greetings:
I've seen this with a new belt for the first few miles. Only theories about why, but it self-correccts generally.
Along with the belt, the minor upgear from the 90/90 might have made it more of a struggle for your engine to accelerate past 40 because it's spinning too slow. Consider swapping a trio of 8.5s with 3 nines and see if it picks up some of its old spunk. You shuold check the 9s for flat spots, too.
Don't forget that warmer air contains less oxygen per unit volume. Everything except a Turbo will lose a bit of power at high altitude or high temperature.
I've seen this with a new belt for the first few miles. Only theories about why, but it self-correccts generally.
Along with the belt, the minor upgear from the 90/90 might have made it more of a struggle for your engine to accelerate past 40 because it's spinning too slow. Consider swapping a trio of 8.5s with 3 nines and see if it picks up some of its old spunk. You shuold check the 9s for flat spots, too.
Don't forget that warmer air contains less oxygen per unit volume. Everything except a Turbo will lose a bit of power at high altitude or high temperature.
Wheelman-111
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Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Re: Slower after drive belt and tire change?
Thanks Wheelman, much appreciated. So I take it there's some kind of "break-in" period for the belt? I don't have any 8.5 but had 8's so I did 3x8 and 3x9 (51 grams). Found no flat spots. Slightly better acceleration but not as good as before with the old belt and tires. But kinda feels like it revs for a few seconds before actually moving forward. I replaced my tires the 90/90 in the hopes of getting a few more mph. Now I'm kinda bummed out because scooter got slower. I'm I asking or expecting too much from a stock motor? Would replacing the center spring and/or clutch springs do me any good? Or should I just be content and just leave the scooter alone. Thanks!
2000 Elite S
Stock Bore
Stock Carb, 85 main jet
Stock clutch and center spring
De-restricted exhaust and airbox
Keli Variator
Ruima 9:1 gears
Pirelli SL 90/90 tires
Stock Bore
Stock Carb, 85 main jet
Stock clutch and center spring
De-restricted exhaust and airbox
Keli Variator
Ruima 9:1 gears
Pirelli SL 90/90 tires
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Re: Slower after drive belt and tire change?
Greetings:
Ride it a while and see if the belt "breaks in". You might try all 8s now, too. Run it on a cool morning and see if it's as fast as ever.
Ride it a while and see if the belt "breaks in". You might try all 8s now, too. Run it on a cool morning and see if it's as fast as ever.
Wheelman-111
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Re: Slower after drive belt and tire change?
is it possible your old belt could have been wider, than the stock belt you put on now???
2001 Elite,50mm bbk, 44.1 mm mini stroker
28mm oko carb, no restriction air filter, ct intake
zx clutch, polini for ruckus vari, pg long, 7.7 gears
1999 Elite 51mm bbk, oko vari, sef ramp plate, 8.44 gears
28mm oko carb, no restriction air filter, ct intake
zx clutch, polini for ruckus vari, pg long, 7.7 gears
1999 Elite 51mm bbk, oko vari, sef ramp plate, 8.44 gears
Re: Slower after drive belt and tire change?
Old belt was 14.75 mm
New belt is 15.5 mm
New belt is 15.5 mm
2000 Elite S
Stock Bore
Stock Carb, 85 main jet
Stock clutch and center spring
De-restricted exhaust and airbox
Keli Variator
Ruima 9:1 gears
Pirelli SL 90/90 tires
Stock Bore
Stock Carb, 85 main jet
Stock clutch and center spring
De-restricted exhaust and airbox
Keli Variator
Ruima 9:1 gears
Pirelli SL 90/90 tires