How fast will it go?
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How fast will it go?
I have an 87 SE50 motor I'm rebuilding for an 84 spree. I'm trying to get as much as I can out of it without a big bore kit, using the stock airbox (as soon as I can find one) and stock exhaust. I'm going to hone the cylinder and use new rings on the old piston, and am thinking about installing a bigger ruima variator with bigger "center springs", to help with take off. With proper jetting and a 160 pound rider, how fast do you think it'll go?
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Re: How fast will it go?
Greetings:
Stock-ish SE/05 variated engines run 40-ish. If you have the 10:1 gears it might go a bit faster downwind...
Stock-ish SE/05 variated engines run 40-ish. If you have the 10:1 gears it might go a bit faster downwind...
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Re: How fast will it go?
40 in a spree or in the SE50? If it does 40ish on the SE50 then I think I can be pretty happy with my setup (variator doesnt change bottom end power, only adds top speed, and the springs will make for a more powerful take off)Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:
Stock-ish SE/05 variated engines run 40-ish. If you have the 10:1 gears it might go a bit faster downwind...
Re: How fast will it go?
WHAT! Since when does the variator not improve off the line? I think you need to go back to variator basic school.arick793 wrote:40 in a spree or in the SE50? If it does 40ish on the SE50 then I think I can be pretty happy with my setup (variator doesnt change bottom end power, only adds top speed, and the springs will make for a more powerful take off)Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:
Stock-ish SE/05 variated engines run 40-ish. If you have the 10:1 gears it might go a bit faster downwind...
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Re: How fast will it go?
This is the most untrue statement ever.arick793 wrote:a variator doesnt change bottom end power, only adds top speed
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The exact opposite is true.
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Re: How fast will it go?
a properly tuned variator will give you decent acceleration, and maintain a good top end.
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Re: How fast will it go?
Okay okay! I've only researched variators enough to know that I need an aftermarket one to do what I want with the scooter. The advertisements I've seen all focus mainly on the increased top speed by way of the variator "adding an extra gear". So I'll just put it together with a nice variator, and the rest mainly stock, and if I don't like the take off and top speed then I'll go from there. Thanks!
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Re: How fast will it go?
If you really have an unrestricted se50 and not the se50p it should go about 40-45mpharick793 wrote: With proper jetting and a 160 pound rider, how fast do you think it'll go?
Count the number of turns of the clutch bell for one turn of the tire.
If it is 11 you wil go 35-39mph
if it is 10 your top speed should be about 45.
Your 160 lbs and the fact that this engine is going on a spree have nothing to do with your top speed.
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Re: How fast will it go?
Without the horsepower to pull the extra gear, you are not gonna go faster.arick793 wrote:Okay okay! I've only researched variators enough to know that I need an aftermarket one to do what I want with the scooter. The advertisements I've seen all focus mainly on the increased top speed by way of the variator "adding an extra gear". So I'll just put it together with a nice variator, and the rest mainly stock, and if I don't like the take off and top speed then I'll go from there. Thanks!
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Re: How fast will it go?
My SE50 stock hits 40mph, but 35mph is the usual constant.
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Re: How fast will it go?
the sa-50 engine will hit 54mph stock derestricted with gears, my gy6 will hit 60mph without gears bone stock! its what i know that grandpa doesn't
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