transmission gasket
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transmission gasket
Is the transmission gasket for the rear when you do a gear swap the same on a af16 as a af18 or 27?
01 Elite Sr
72cc Polini Corsa
21mm Pwk carb
V8 Typhoon exh
8:44:1 gears
72cc Polini Corsa
21mm Pwk carb
V8 Typhoon exh
8:44:1 gears
Re: transmission gasket
I think it depends on what year... dont quote me but i think the trans gasket from the 94-97 sa50 is the same as the af18....the 98-01 sa50 gasket is different because of the changes they made IE no bearings in the cover for the secondaries. I could be wrong as I do not have an af18 engine
1986 Spree/ Eve af16 swapped 65cc Prodigy vari 8g 9:1 Ruima gears
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged
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1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
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Re: transmission gasket
Greetings:
The gaskets for the U.S. Elite models are definitely different.
'94 to '98-1/2 = 21395-GAH-000
'98.5 - 2001 = 21395-GBL-870
Someone recently posted the serial number cutoff for the later single-bearing rear tranny cover. I can never remember that shtuff.
Since the perimeter dimensions are the same, both will keep the oil inside the cover. Some therefore conclude that it doesn't matter which gasket you use. I'm not so sure.
The plain bearing needs a constant input of oil to keep from becoming an aluminum lathe. If the gaskets are cut wrong, there is a risk that the oil won't be channelled correctly through the assembly to keep the plain bearing "fed". The twin ball bearings would appear less fragile in this way at first glance, but remember that the transmission is designed to circulate the oil, a little like a pump, perhaps. If the holes in the gasket don't allow for the flow as God and Honda-san ordained, perhaps there's an increased risk of failure - particularly at high speeds where such failures would be especially unwelcome.
I recommend you make double-sure of the gasket specified by the AF18, 27 etc parts fiche and try to get the correct one.
The gaskets for the U.S. Elite models are definitely different.
'94 to '98-1/2 = 21395-GAH-000
'98.5 - 2001 = 21395-GBL-870
Someone recently posted the serial number cutoff for the later single-bearing rear tranny cover. I can never remember that shtuff.
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Since the perimeter dimensions are the same, both will keep the oil inside the cover. Some therefore conclude that it doesn't matter which gasket you use. I'm not so sure.
The plain bearing needs a constant input of oil to keep from becoming an aluminum lathe. If the gaskets are cut wrong, there is a risk that the oil won't be channelled correctly through the assembly to keep the plain bearing "fed". The twin ball bearings would appear less fragile in this way at first glance, but remember that the transmission is designed to circulate the oil, a little like a pump, perhaps. If the holes in the gasket don't allow for the flow as God and Honda-san ordained, perhaps there's an increased risk of failure - particularly at high speeds where such failures would be especially unwelcome.
I recommend you make double-sure of the gasket specified by the AF18, 27 etc parts fiche and try to get the correct one.
Wheelman-111
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Re: transmission gasket
ok thanks does anyone know where i can get gasket for a af16e its from a 94 bike
01 Elite Sr
72cc Polini Corsa
21mm Pwk carb
V8 Typhoon exh
8:44:1 gears
72cc Polini Corsa
21mm Pwk carb
V8 Typhoon exh
8:44:1 gears
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Re: transmission gasket
Greetings:
Dawg, your friendly Honda dealer can oder one and have it in 2 days. No shipping charges.
Call Honda-san, ax for Parts-Dude, and read him the part number above. They love avoiding work, and who doesn't?
With the computer and the part number, it's automatic.
Dawg, your friendly Honda dealer can oder one and have it in 2 days. No shipping charges.
Call Honda-san, ax for Parts-Dude, and read him the part number above. They love avoiding work, and who doesn't?
With the computer and the part number, it's automatic.
Wheelman-111
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Re: transmission gasket
OK thanks....DAWG!
01 Elite Sr
72cc Polini Corsa
21mm Pwk carb
V8 Typhoon exh
8:44:1 gears
72cc Polini Corsa
21mm Pwk carb
V8 Typhoon exh
8:44:1 gears
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Re: transmission gasket
If you have a '98 elite 50, just have your VIN ready when you order from your dealer and they can tell you. It is written in the Honda parts fiche.Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:
The gaskets for the U.S. Elite models are definitely different.
'94 to '98-1/2 = 21395-GAH-000
'98.5 - 2001 = 21395-GBL-870
Someone recently posted the serial number cutoff for the later single-bearing rear tranny cover. I can never remember that shtuff.![]()
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