I dont get it

Does your Spree/Elite already run great, and you're trying to make it quicker/faster? Need a monster motor swap? Discuss your ideas here.

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I dont get it

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I suck at tuning hahahha setup polini contesta 21mm oko 45/100 stock pipe ruima vari with 9g 1.5k contra 1.5k grabbers with 9.1 gears 32:1 premix bp8hs plug 45 mph what am I doing wrong? heck my 43mm bore did 43mph
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mark the variator face with a sharpie and see how high the belt rides. what color is the plug? you using a cylinder head temp gauge?
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I havent really run it enough for a proper plug chop but so far it is a reddish brown on the end and black at the ring BUT its a used plug too so I will need to get a new one to really check it and no I dont have a cylinder head temp gauge I have a digital probe thermometer I stick on the side of the cylinder and on the head to get an estimate of the temps. measured around 290 after a short WOT run

switched to my prodigy with 9g and stock trans to eliminate that variable till I get the carb tuned, will mark the vari with a sharpie and drop to a 95 tomorrow and see where that puts me
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1986 Spree/ Eve af16 swapped 65cc Prodigy vari 8g 9:1 Ruima gears
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged :D
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
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Hmmm, i did 58 mph with the stock carb :confused:
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evilone wrote:Hmmm, i did 58 mph with the stock carb :confused:
I know that is what has me messed up hahahha
1986 Spree/ Eve af16 swapped 65cc Prodigy vari 8g 9:1 Ruima gears
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged :D
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
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Just curious what your compression ended up at.
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havent checked that yet :D it starts easy and has plenty of power on the bottom so I dont think that is my problem. Will check that tomorrow as well
1986 Spree/ Eve af16 swapped 65cc Prodigy vari 8g 9:1 Ruima gears
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged :D
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
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did you put in upside down??????
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mark the variator like bakaracer said so you no if you using the hole thing.!!!
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I am pretty sure the belt is riding almost all the way out on the vari but will make sure tomorrow.
1986 Spree/ Eve af16 swapped 65cc Prodigy vari 8g 9:1 Ruima gears
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged :D
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
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Put a better pipe on and those 9:1 gears top out quick
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To small da carb and pipe go with a 24 or 26mm carb and get a better breathing pipe. You should think about getting 8.44:1 gears. Those jets are too small for 32:1 premix.
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Definately need a better pipe :D Just did a compression test 150psi cold. I did notice if i turned the a/f screw in all the way it ran better than at 1 1/2 out but I think the 45 pilot is too big. Think I may take the mani off and make sure my gaskets are good and seal the vacuum nipple screw
1986 Spree/ Eve af16 swapped 65cc Prodigy vari 8g 9:1 Ruima gears
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged :D
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
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What about the metal tabs on the reeds between the reed and the stop? would the fuel flow better with or without them?
1986 Spree/ Eve af16 swapped 65cc Prodigy vari 8g 9:1 Ruima gears
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged :D
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
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Without but the difference will only be a couple hundred RPM.
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Contesta Does work well on sr stock pipe 8.4. Complete s tranny and 24mm carb :lol:

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