66cc BBK Upgrade? Thoughts?

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66cc BBK Upgrade? Thoughts?

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Well, the weather in WI is starting to get nice again (ok, thats a lie, it was nice, and is supposed to rain for a few days..but should get nice and stay nice soon)...so that means its time to get my scooter up and running once again. Its been about 2 years since it was last running..and from what I remember, I had rather low compression and several people suggested I replace the top end.

So, I figured what better time for a BBK; frankly I do not want to spend that much (since that usually leads to spending more), so I figured getting a 66cc BBK (http://www.ebay.com/itm/271036038325) would be plenty since it doesnt seem to require an aftermarket crank, carb or exhaust..

What are everyone's thoughts on this BBK? I'm hoping to order soon so I can start working on it next weekend.


Thanks all!!
~Shiba

p.s. This will be the first summer I'll be attempting to ride it since taking a nasty spill a few years back...so heres to getting back on the saddle!!


edit: Also forgot, probably going to pick up this jet kit (http://www.ebay.com/itm/271200867348) so I've got a few to tweak the carb with..
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I ran that bore for a couple seasons with no problems. Where you @ in WI?
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SpyderMike wrote:I ran that bore for a couple seasons with no problems. Where you @ in WI?
Up by Milwaukee..

Did you just roll w/ the stock carb/exhaust as well? if so, what jetting were you running at?
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No I was way over carbed with a 24mm...

You going to attend moto-scoot rally on the 1st?
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SpyderMike wrote:No I was way over carbed with a 24mm...

You going to attend moto-scoot rally on the 1st?
gotcha...

well, this is the first i'm hearing of it...but sadly i'll be up in the dells camping for a friends birthday, otherwise it sounds like it would be awesome...minus the fact my scooter isnt working of course..
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shiba wrote:several people suggested I replace the top end
Low compression means it's time for a fresh jug. A 66cc BBK is a good place to start because you don't need to replace anything else except change the main jet to about an 80 or 85. It's not a difficult project. An aftermarket exhaust will add another few mph, but it's not necessary to start with
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Oh seriously? That's nice then haha... After reading a few posts I was under the impression that the main jet would be closer to 100...but that would be perfect since I think I've currently got a 82 or 85 key in there... :p
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Just a heads up for twenty more bucks I sell a 72cc malossi kit that is bolt on and you can use stock carb. Quality and performance is double of that 66cc kit. Keith
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Red Eft Performance wrote:Just a heads up for twenty more bucks I sell a 72cc malossi kit that is bolt on and you can use stock carb. Quality and performance is double of that 66cc kit. Keith
can it be used w/ everything else stock (ie, exhaust, etc)? also, what jet size is a good starting point for the stock carb?
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Yes it can be used with stock parts.
For carb. Airbox intact air screw about 3/4 of a turn out. Needle clip at the top. 100 main. Tune from there.
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Red Eft Performance wrote:Yes it can be used with stock parts.
For carb. Airbox intact air screw about 3/4 of a turn out. Needle clip at the top. 100 main. Tune from there.
i think its fairly safe to assume that you mean the second kit on your page here (http://www.hondaspree.net/phpBB3/viewto ... =2&t=19538), correct? does that also come w/ a head, or just use stock? defiantly leaning towards this more now.. sorry for playing 20 questions tho..
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shiba wrote:
Red Eft Performance wrote:Yes it can be used with stock parts.
For carb. Airbox intact air screw about 3/4 of a turn out. Needle clip at the top. 100 main. Tune from there.
i think its fairly safe to assume that you mean the second kit on your page here (http://www.hondaspree.net/phpBB3/viewto ... =2&t=19538), correct? does that also come w/ a head, or just use stock? defiantly leaning towards this more now.. sorry for playing 20 questions tho..
Yes its the second one. Yes it comes with head.
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Red Eft Performance wrote:
shiba wrote:
Red Eft Performance wrote:Yes it can be used with stock parts.
For carb. Airbox intact air screw about 3/4 of a turn out. Needle clip at the top. 100 main. Tune from there.
i think its fairly safe to assume that you mean the second kit on your page here (http://www.hondaspree.net/phpBB3/viewto ... =2&t=19538), correct? does that also come w/ a head, or just use stock? defiantly leaning towards this more now.. sorry for playing 20 questions tho..
Yes its the second one. Yes it comes with head.
cool beans! pm sent :)
2000 Honda Elite SA50P (AF16E)
Current Mods: 72cc Malossi BBK, Unrestricted, OKO Vari, OKO Ramp, [9g OKO/ 7.5G ???] Rollers, #82 Upjet, ASN 9:1 gears

HELP ME WITH MY TRANSMISSION TUNING!!!
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